When we asked Google whether it developed this feature with or without Apple’s involvement, Moriconi confirmed it was not a collab. “We accomplished this through our own implementation,”
> When we asked Google whether it developed this feature with or without Apple’s involvement, Moriconi confirmed it was not a collab. “We accomplished this through our own implementation,” he tells The Verge.
> Under pressure from the EU’s Digital Markets Act (DMA), Apple is being forced to ditch its proprietary peer-to-peer Wi-Fi protocol – Apple Wireless Direct Link (AWDL) – in favor of the industry-standard Wi-Fi Aware, also known as Neighbor Awareness Networking (NAN). A quietly published EU interoperability roadmap mandates Apple support Wi-Fi Aware 4.0 in iOS 19 and v5.0,1 thereafter, essentially forcing AWDL into retirement. This post investigates how we got here (from Wi-Fi Direct to AWDL to Wi-Fi Aware), what makes Wi-Fi Aware technically superior, and why this shift unlocks true cross-platform peer-to-peer connectivity for developers.
There was a snarky comment yesterday about hackers hating governments, being unable to trust them.
But this is the counterpoint.
More Anti-Anti-Circumvention Laws! Please! Defend our ability to explore & interoperate & extend! The world ought be open to mankind & unfurling possible futures. It's so grand seeing governments finally putting some points on the board for improving access to systems, letting us see & grasp the constructed technological world we are submersed in.
People who are categorically against government intervention get weird when such an intervention shown to be An Undeniably Good Thing™. In contrast, for such people the idea that libertarianism might have Bad Consequences™ for personal liberties, or even their sacred financial system, isn't entertained.
Google didn't "crack" anything. This was done with Apple's cooperation.
I realize you're quoting the article title verbatim, but The Verge ought to be ashamed of themselves.
And the Google rep says otherwise:
When we asked Google whether it developed this feature with or without Apple’s involvement, Moriconi confirmed it was not a collab. “We accomplished this through our own implementation,”
Couldn’t that just be interpreted as ”this is 100% our code, but Apple helped us sort out the technical details”?
No, where do you see anything remotely close to your assertion?
hacked? LOL! Apple and Google had worked before together, remember Covid contact alerts?
> When we asked Google whether it developed this feature with or without Apple’s involvement, Moriconi confirmed it was not a collab. “We accomplished this through our own implementation,” he tells The Verge.
That they wrote their own implementation does not mean that they reverse-engineered the protocol.
And then Apple will change it and we'll have another quiet compatibility war like with text messages.
> Under pressure from the EU’s Digital Markets Act (DMA), Apple is being forced to ditch its proprietary peer-to-peer Wi-Fi protocol – Apple Wireless Direct Link (AWDL) – in favor of the industry-standard Wi-Fi Aware, also known as Neighbor Awareness Networking (NAN). A quietly published EU interoperability roadmap mandates Apple support Wi-Fi Aware 4.0 in iOS 19 and v5.0,1 thereafter, essentially forcing AWDL into retirement. This post investigates how we got here (from Wi-Fi Direct to AWDL to Wi-Fi Aware), what makes Wi-Fi Aware technically superior, and why this shift unlocks true cross-platform peer-to-peer connectivity for developers.
Apple cant do anything without angering EU.
Apple can’t do anything <to entrench its monopoly> without angering EU.
Ironically one of Apple’s biggest selling points in the last 4-5 years of iPhone releases, the switch to USB-C, was pretty much forced by the EU.
So far it appears Apple benefits more than it’s hurt by the EU’s anti-monopolistic decisions.
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There was a snarky comment yesterday about hackers hating governments, being unable to trust them.
But this is the counterpoint.
More Anti-Anti-Circumvention Laws! Please! Defend our ability to explore & interoperate & extend! The world ought be open to mankind & unfurling possible futures. It's so grand seeing governments finally putting some points on the board for improving access to systems, letting us see & grasp the constructed technological world we are submersed in.
People who are categorically against government intervention get weird when such an intervention shown to be An Undeniably Good Thing™. In contrast, for such people the idea that libertarianism might have Bad Consequences™ for personal liberties, or even their sacred financial system, isn't entertained.
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45994854