Hardly a surprise that the country run by the ghouls who won their elections through lies and manipulation are going after people attempting to combat "fake news", but the blatant way they go about it is what sickens me the most. It used to be, at least for a while, that these kinds of direct attacks had to at least be wrapped in some kind of bigger package that pretends to serve the common good so politicians could pretend they had a reason not to object, but America has gone fully mask-off.
America knows Europe is feeling the Russian threat down their neck and that they cannot afford the war against Putin without American help, so America can do what they want without risk of consequences.
I hope the American people aren't expecting European help for their upcoming invasion of Venezuela. I doubt European nations are willing to repeat the fiasco in the middle east in the middle of the American destabilisation campaign.
> Well, that ain't as bad news/punishment as it used to be.
Agreed. My company (which is smallish but quite international) has largely stopped meetups/conferences/etc. in the US because so many people either have to wait ages for a visa, or are from countries now on blacklists. This is not to mention the risk of getting randomly pulled by TSA/ICE/etc. I have to imagine this is much more widespread than just my company as well.
Fun to watch a superpower attempt self-destruction. /s Too bad it'll probably hurt all of us in some form or another.
Same! The open source project I engage with, held the yearly conference always alternatingly in America and Europe over the past 10 years. And due to the current circumstances it was just recently decided to have next year's conference a 2nd time in a row in Europe.
At some point you need to draw a hard line in sand when it comes to people trying to actively supress freedom of expression.
Otherwise they just keep trying and trying. A bully won't stop until he gets punched in the face, and this is what the USA did to the EU bully bureaucrats pushing their will everywhere.
While I don't love over-regulation, and there certainly are some parts of the DSA which are probably over-broad, it is astonishingly rich that the current US administration is targeting the EU for "suppressing freedom of expression".
Land of the free looking like rank shitty low cowards, afraid of every shadow these days. Absolutely no tolerance, demanding subservience. It's totally up-side down, just madcap that any of this is OK with anyone. All Correct turning to All In-Correct, all wrong.
If you wanna operate in a market you have to follow said market's rules and regulations, full stop and period. The only ones actively trying to suppress freedom of expression are the bullies and borderline sociopaths currently in the US executive.
Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46374087
Hardly a surprise that the country run by the ghouls who won their elections through lies and manipulation are going after people attempting to combat "fake news", but the blatant way they go about it is what sickens me the most. It used to be, at least for a while, that these kinds of direct attacks had to at least be wrapped in some kind of bigger package that pretends to serve the common good so politicians could pretend they had a reason not to object, but America has gone fully mask-off.
America knows Europe is feeling the Russian threat down their neck and that they cannot afford the war against Putin without American help, so America can do what they want without risk of consequences.
I hope the American people aren't expecting European help for their upcoming invasion of Venezuela. I doubt European nations are willing to repeat the fiasco in the middle east in the middle of the American destabilisation campaign.
Well, that ain't as bad news/punishment as it used to be.
Not many people want to visit the US under Trump anymore and many countries already have travel advisories for the US now.
> Well, that ain't as bad news/punishment as it used to be.
Agreed. My company (which is smallish but quite international) has largely stopped meetups/conferences/etc. in the US because so many people either have to wait ages for a visa, or are from countries now on blacklists. This is not to mention the risk of getting randomly pulled by TSA/ICE/etc. I have to imagine this is much more widespread than just my company as well.
Fun to watch a superpower attempt self-destruction. /s Too bad it'll probably hurt all of us in some form or another.
Same! The open source project I engage with, held the yearly conference always alternatingly in America and Europe over the past 10 years. And due to the current circumstances it was just recently decided to have next year's conference a 2nd time in a row in Europe.
At some point you need to draw a hard line in sand when it comes to people trying to actively supress freedom of expression.
Otherwise they just keep trying and trying. A bully won't stop until he gets punched in the face, and this is what the USA did to the EU bully bureaucrats pushing their will everywhere.
Shame that so few of us Europeans do the same.
While I don't love over-regulation, and there certainly are some parts of the DSA which are probably over-broad, it is astonishingly rich that the current US administration is targeting the EU for "suppressing freedom of expression".
Land of the free looking like rank shitty low cowards, afraid of every shadow these days. Absolutely no tolerance, demanding subservience. It's totally up-side down, just madcap that any of this is OK with anyone. All Correct turning to All In-Correct, all wrong.
If you wanna operate in a market you have to follow said market's rules and regulations, full stop and period. The only ones actively trying to suppress freedom of expression are the bullies and borderline sociopaths currently in the US executive.