"Great design prompts require design vocabulary. Most people don't have it."
Vocabulary is just the surface. Beneath it is an understanding of how to achieve your goals with design. How to make things that are easy to use, accessible, that create a certain impression.
Does this website (presumably made with the help of these AI tools) show this kind of understanding of design? Not really. It's chaotic, the text is often hard to read and there is a ton of fluff, both in terms of visuals and copy.
There is a "Frequently Asked Questions" section and a "Popular" $100 tier in the "Support the Project" section, even though this project seems to be brand new. Why lie to the reader?
Yes, but with LLMs, sometimes simply mentioning the right words is enough to prime the model in the direction you want to take it. If you start a prompt talking about leading and type pairings, it will take greater care with typography. You don't need to be an expert typographer to take advantage of this phenomenon.
Or, said another way, vocabulary provides us with the words (semantics). You also need a grammar (syntax), which itself needs to be ordered toward an end (pragmatics).
This isn't really what I said, and is considerably less clear. What I meant is that you can't boil design down to certain stylistic flourishes and words denoting them (e.g. "vertical rhythm", to take an example from the linked page). Whatever you're doing, it involves understanding how the viewer will react to what you will show them and why.
I had to go back and check, with "modern invisible scrollbars", and those useless theme settings at the bottom I assumed the page was just some css demo that ended there and left.
It's interesting to see people creating and 'selling' agent skills. This one asks for donations, but I was expecting to see a stripe link and 'download for 4 dollars, yours forever' (personally I think that would convert better...)
I wonder if there will be full-blown skill marketplaces soon. Would that be a way for some experts to recoup some (presumably very small portion) of the income they might lose due to generative AI market effects?
Concept seems fun, and I'm expecting we'll see a bunch of those in the next few weeks/months. UX of that specific page seems broken, however, as the container for the explanation of each "function" doesn't scroll along with the rest of the content (stays stuck at the top) and makes it impossible to see.
I can confirm the broken UI. The demo container disappears as you scroll down, leaving a blank space that takes up most of the screen. I want to make a snarky joke about this but I'm just tired at this point.
The "Before" examples look infinitely better than the "After" examples. Tells you all you need to know. Wouldn't be at all surprised if this whole thing was a ridiculous joke or a satirical commentary on pretentious design.
agreed, the information density on the "after" example is much worse for most dashboard use cases. Way too much space, not enough info. But I guess I'm not exactly surprised based on the style of the page being both zoomed in and spaced out
Come one, there are things to say about this project but the Download section is pretty clear. It installs commands for your LLMs and AI-based IDE.
It states that clearly in the section.
If you’re not familiar with what a /command is in the context of LLM, this may just not be for you and that's fine, but the purpose is clearly stated.
To get something usable out of an LLM (aka vibecooding, vibe engineering et al), it works best if you're an expert yourself -> a.k.a you need to know the "lingo".
So there's the possibility of skipping the intermediate work in between by exposing yourself to just the input and the output of the process for certain domains, this is for frontend I think.
The Form UX one is hilarious. It took a streamlined form used to convert and added enormous marketing copy that's more attention grabbing than the form itself. If you look closely they ran the `/simplify` command, haha.
I'm glad it's not just me. One would hope that `BEFORE` and `AFTER` would imply `WORSE` and `BETTER`, but from their examples they somehow they managed to shoehorn `MEH` in there.
I think the difficulty for AI to learn this, in general, is the missing out of the day-to-day experience living as a human, because that is what shapes our viewing habits. And those are what a good graphic design interacts with.
They set themselves up for a fall when they named themselves "Impeccable Style"
The mix of sans and serif fonts on their website is a mess. There's too much negative space, and it's inconsistent. Too many font sizes, and some that are so tiny they're illegible.
In the landing page before/after example, I think the "before" design looks more appealing.
"Great design prompts require design vocabulary. Most people don't have it."
Vocabulary is just the surface. Beneath it is an understanding of how to achieve your goals with design. How to make things that are easy to use, accessible, that create a certain impression.
Does this website (presumably made with the help of these AI tools) show this kind of understanding of design? Not really. It's chaotic, the text is often hard to read and there is a ton of fluff, both in terms of visuals and copy.
There is a "Frequently Asked Questions" section and a "Popular" $100 tier in the "Support the Project" section, even though this project seems to be brand new. Why lie to the reader?
I was about to make a similar comment. The before/after showcases look in many cases harder to grasp and navigate on the after side.
Roundabout what I would expect as a result from the prompt "make a website that demonstrates how LLMs can better designs"
> Vocabulary is just the surface.
Yes, but with LLMs, sometimes simply mentioning the right words is enough to prime the model in the direction you want to take it. If you start a prompt talking about leading and type pairings, it will take greater care with typography. You don't need to be an expert typographer to take advantage of this phenomenon.
Or, said another way, vocabulary provides us with the words (semantics). You also need a grammar (syntax), which itself needs to be ordered toward an end (pragmatics).
This isn't really what I said, and is considerably less clear. What I meant is that you can't boil design down to certain stylistic flourishes and words denoting them (e.g. "vertical rhythm", to take an example from the linked page). Whatever you're doing, it involves understanding how the viewer will react to what you will show them and why.
Let me pull out my 5000 px tall monitor so I can see the examples further down the page. impeccable style, really
I had to go back and check, with "modern invisible scrollbars", and those useless theme settings at the bottom I assumed the page was just some css demo that ended there and left.
Putting aside the execution:
It's interesting to see people creating and 'selling' agent skills. This one asks for donations, but I was expecting to see a stripe link and 'download for 4 dollars, yours forever' (personally I think that would convert better...)
I wonder if there will be full-blown skill marketplaces soon. Would that be a way for some experts to recoup some (presumably very small portion) of the income they might lose due to generative AI market effects?
Concept seems fun, and I'm expecting we'll see a bunch of those in the next few weeks/months. UX of that specific page seems broken, however, as the container for the explanation of each "function" doesn't scroll along with the rest of the content (stays stuck at the top) and makes it impossible to see.
I can confirm the broken UI. The demo container disappears as you scroll down, leaving a blank space that takes up most of the screen. I want to make a snarky joke about this but I'm just tired at this point.
The "Before" examples look infinitely better than the "After" examples. Tells you all you need to know. Wouldn't be at all surprised if this whole thing was a ridiculous joke or a satirical commentary on pretentious design.
I like the idea of this, but in the examples I thought the "Before" looked much better on all 3...
It was especially jarring on the last example with the cool looking chart, then removed for a bunch of text.
agreed, the information density on the "after" example is much worse for most dashboard use cases. Way too much space, not enough info. But I guess I'm not exactly surprised based on the style of the page being both zoomed in and spaced out
i do not understand what this even is. Some stylesheets? What am I even downloading when I click "download"?
Come one, there are things to say about this project but the Download section is pretty clear. It installs commands for your LLMs and AI-based IDE. It states that clearly in the section.
If you’re not familiar with what a /command is in the context of LLM, this may just not be for you and that's fine, but the purpose is clearly stated.
To get something usable out of an LLM (aka vibecooding, vibe engineering et al), it works best if you're an expert yourself -> a.k.a you need to know the "lingo".
So there's the possibility of skipping the intermediate work in between by exposing yourself to just the input and the output of the process for certain domains, this is for frontend I think.
I was about to write the same. I scrolled through it but I dont understand what it is.
More vibe coding stuff.
replacing a metrics dashboard with text is one of the choices you could make
impeccable (adj.)
Of user interface style: low contrast and hence poor readability, with excessive white space.
What does this even do? Read most of the page but still didn't understand the project actually is
Love it when the design tool breaks halfway down the page.
From the authors website:
Renaissance Geek (noun)
A person who moves fluidly between art, technology, narrative, and systems — guided by curiosity instead of specialization.
With AI as their amplifier, this breadth makes them dangerous enough to build the future rather than be shaped by it.
I had to triple check which was which in the `BEFORE` and `AFTER` examples, because I can see an awful lot of things that it's made worse.
The Form UX one is hilarious. It took a streamlined form used to convert and added enormous marketing copy that's more attention grabbing than the form itself. If you look closely they ran the `/simplify` command, haha.
The dashboard might even be funnier, though.
And this is what the creator chose to demo.
I'm glad it's not just me. One would hope that `BEFORE` and `AFTER` would imply `WORSE` and `BETTER`, but from their examples they somehow they managed to shoehorn `MEH` in there.
And if they need to explain it... ;-)
Tufte it isn't.
I agree. That thing made all the designs worse.
I think the difficulty for AI to learn this, in general, is the missing out of the day-to-day experience living as a human, because that is what shapes our viewing habits. And those are what a good graphic design interacts with.
They set themselves up for a fall when they named themselves "Impeccable Style"
The mix of sans and serif fonts on their website is a mess. There's too much negative space, and it's inconsistent. Too many font sizes, and some that are so tiny they're illegible.
In the landing page before/after example, I think the "before" design looks more appealing.
> no /pop command