Maybe get a new cat and donate $60k to an animal shelter?
I guess the fact of such services existing and competing drives forward and funds genetics research, so from that point of view I'm glad they exist, but it seems like a strange way to spend so much money.
It is not strange if you ever had a pet that meant a lot to you.
I know people who have grieved for months after losing their cat and their dog. Their connection was much more than "just a pet", it became family and as important as a child, sibling or parent.
Cloning is of course not guarantee the pet will be exactly as the original, but if there's a chance it will have similar personality I can very much understand the willingness to pay for it.
I could maybe see the worth of this if it was a $60k medical bill to save a dying cat. But even a successful clone will only be physically identical, not behaviorally. And it feels like the resemblance would just magnify all the differences.
I love cats and dogs dearly, so I don't say this lightly, but please just get a new cat (even the same breed!) and save the money for a worthier cause.
Would it actually be physically identical? Don't certain characteristics like spots/stripes/etc have some amount of variance due to embryo development?
Anyone with a spare 60K who would use it to clone a cat rather than to improve the lifes of existing cats (donating to local shelters, TNR programs, etc) hardly deserves to have a cat.
Interestingly, the most cloned animal in the world are horses [1].
Given how popular (and expensive) it is for horses, it likely delivers on the results people are looking for. Note that current cloning techniques don't clone the mitochondria, which represents 1%-2% of the genome.
My clone of cat(1) is called redpanda(no manual) that includes kitty terminal graphics protocol support so I can do `cat nyan.png` and the png rendered to the terminal I'm using (ghostty) instead of cat spewing a bunch of garbage.
I have no idea what genetic material is, but cloning a `cat` is very easy, the instructions in German are very clear: "Nie Kaffee verwenden, sondern immer `tee`!" :) I'm also not sure why it costs `60K` for you? Only `14,320` here.
Maybe get a new cat and donate $60k to an animal shelter?
I guess the fact of such services existing and competing drives forward and funds genetics research, so from that point of view I'm glad they exist, but it seems like a strange way to spend so much money.
It is not strange if you ever had a pet that meant a lot to you.
I know people who have grieved for months after losing their cat and their dog. Their connection was much more than "just a pet", it became family and as important as a child, sibling or parent.
Cloning is of course not guarantee the pet will be exactly as the original, but if there's a chance it will have similar personality I can very much understand the willingness to pay for it.
I could maybe see the worth of this if it was a $60k medical bill to save a dying cat. But even a successful clone will only be physically identical, not behaviorally. And it feels like the resemblance would just magnify all the differences.
I love cats and dogs dearly, so I don't say this lightly, but please just get a new cat (even the same breed!) and save the money for a worthier cause.
Would it actually be physically identical? Don't certain characteristics like spots/stripes/etc have some amount of variance due to embryo development?
Exactly. Identical twins don't have the same fingerprints.
Anyone with a spare 60K who would use it to clone a cat rather than to improve the lifes of existing cats (donating to local shelters, TNR programs, etc) hardly deserves to have a cat.
[dead]
I’ve been cloning and battling cats for the past week, it’s highly addictive: https://store.steampowered.com/app/686060/Mewgenics/
Interestingly, the most cloned animal in the world are horses [1].
Given how popular (and expensive) it is for horses, it likely delivers on the results people are looking for. Note that current cloning techniques don't clone the mitochondria, which represents 1%-2% of the genome.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_cloning
I know everyone on this site is a Netflix SRE making $450k a year but are people really spending their money on cloning their pets??
There are people leaving millions of $ as inheritance to their pets, I am not surprised that someone tries to clone someone they love/loved...
I would love to be the person burdened with hosting such a pet heir. Call me!
you wouldn't download a cat
[00s heavy electric music intensifies]
I once made a clone of cat(1), making sure not to include the -v option because it's considered harmful.
Seriously, though, why are you asking? Was there some breakthrough in biology recently that made it feasible and available?
Or are we actually talking about cat(1)?
Commercial off the shelf animal cloning for pets and animal husbandry has been around for well over a decade at this point.
My clone of cat(1) is called redpanda(no manual) that includes kitty terminal graphics protocol support so I can do `cat nyan.png` and the png rendered to the terminal I'm using (ghostty) instead of cat spewing a bunch of garbage.
https://github.com/fragmede/redpanda
I just realized that you can run sudo apt install nyancat on Ubuntu. It even includes a man page.
Just to note, that's output using standard ANSI escapes and not kitty or sixel terminal graphics support.
> I see it'll cost about 60K
It also only has a ~30% success rate, so it might be in the ballpark of $200K to get a living clone
cat &
A UNIX fork is actually a clone of the process, in the first place.
(SCNR)
I have no idea what genetic material is, but cloning a `cat` is very easy, the instructions in German are very clear: "Nie Kaffee verwenden, sondern immer `tee`!" :) I'm also not sure why it costs `60K` for you? Only `14,320` here.
Cloning vegetables is way simpler, I use to clone my potatoes every year.
Give this a shot https://github.com/sharkdp/bat
But in all seriousness I’m interested in knowing the answer to this too, just out of sheer curiosity.
If you do, would be interesting to see how much of the same behaviour is shown by the new cat so do share
Yes, I have and no there aren't any services, because it's illegal almost everywhere. But if you give me the 60k, I'll write a wikihow for it.
Yes, they looked the same, but behaved completely differently…
Wasted money.
You paid money to get to the Sematary? I think you may have been scammed by the locals.
If you do, would be interesting to see how much of the same behaviour is displayed by the new cat so do share
Schrodinger’s cat?
Famously impossible due to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-cloning_theorem