If you wish to divert from the discussion of whether free and fair elections is still possible in the USA, and would rather enter the meta-discussion, I'll bite, and cite Wikipedia:
> Godwin's law can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, a diversion, or even censorship, when miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole even when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate.
That thing in the lake in the China poster, is that some AI nightmare hybrid between a Japanese Shinto shrine and a Chinese pagoda (EDIT: no, it seems to be real: https://img.visiontimes.com/2022/01/hangzhou-ge36163601_1920... - it's just the color that looks more like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Itsukushima_Shrine_Torii_...)? And of course the Taj Mahal in the India poster only has one tower. But I wouldn't put it past the current administration if they really printed 100,000 of these low-effort AI slop posters. The designer probably got a boatload of money for them too, after all the extremely generous budget increase for ICE has to go somewhere...
Objectively, which is hard to say because I’m just obviously not in this position, but if I were in the United States legally and I’m looking at three options…
1. I take self-deportation offer. At Christmas it was $3000 a person, but usually $1000, a commercial plane ticket anywhere, and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method. I can say goodbye to people I can sell my things. I can do this on my own timeline within reason.
2. I’ve risk it and trying to invade ice for the next three years minimum. If Vance wins, I need to make it to at least 2032 without showing up on any radar. I’m careful and looking over my shoulder constantly and work is a never ending dread.
3. I am caught by ICE. I have absolutely no claim to stay in the US. I can sit in a detention center while an NGO funded lawyer tells me that I do. And in high likelihood, I am sent back with no money on a cargo jet and I’m banned from the United States forever. This happens at any moment.
Practically speaking, I just cannot picture taking option two which could be three at any time. The fact is, I would know without a doubt, unfair or not that I am here legally, that my state would apply in any European country as well. I cannot fathom how option one is not the best option. Perhaps I’m too risk adverse.
"A commercial plane ticket anywhere" != the legal right to go anywhere
Pretty much you go back to your country of origin
Typically people take on the immense risk and challenge of leaving their country of origin to come here because their country of origin has really bad problems
Those problems likely still exist or have gotten worse over the last several years due to (if nothing else) COVID further separating the US economy from the rest of the world's
This administration changes its tune based on what business/tech leaders are telling them[0][1]. There's no doubt that ICE will be used for selective enforcement (as we've seen them used at American protests) but some immigrants are probably staying based on the reality that business interests are more important.
Also, I would be hesitant to say that immigrants being targeted by ICE are "illegal" as we saw some be detained/deported after speaking out against the war in Gaza[2]. Also, a lot claim asylum at the border which is a legal process.
> and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method
That process in reality takes a really long time due to the federal immigration system being strained. The 2024 border bill tried to address this by adding more immigration judges and asylum officers but Trump told Republicans to kill it because it'd make Biden look good. So far all we got was a massive DHS funding increase that allowed Kristi Noem to funnel $100M+ to herself and her friends and kill two American citizens with ICE.
I guess they need more money for an agency that burns it. Using conspiracies to goat the dumbed down public to get the ok to spend more money on a pointless Space Force.
What was that card game that supposedly predicted the outcome of the future? Was there revealing the presence of aliens in the deck? /s
I remember reading shady sites in 00s, where the other side claimed that govts around the world will get along on this idea and with help of elaborated holograms hoax will tell populations that aliens are here among us/are about to invade.
Here, in the mid-20s it's much cheaper to do that with help of AI. /s
I'm not a gambler, but there should be a thing on those gambling sites on whether this is about extraterrestrial life or mexicans
Who said it’s a binary choice? Could have extraterrestrials taking advantage of our weak southern border to enter the country.
They're eating the cats![0]
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALF_(TV_series)
Even better, then noone will be payed out.
Who do you think built Chicken Itza?!
According to Polymarket, there's a 16% chance US will confirm aliens exist: https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-confirm-that-aliens...
Someone with the ability to register .gov domains is trying to make a sneaky buck.
It used to be anyone with a fax machine could register any .gov but they fixed that when there was a news report about it.
If it was about extraterrestrial life, there would be a massive insider trade and Polymarket would've climbed. It's been static for the past day.
https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-confirm-that-aliens...
Ask and ye shall receive: https://manifold.markets/benmanns/aliensgov-prop-bets (play money). I set this up so multiple can resolve and other users can add additional speculations.
Oh my god.
EDIT: oh it's play money, good website
et.aliens.gov, mexicans.aliens.gov
It can do it all!
New distraction is coming in! All eyes on this now!
Man, they really don't think much of their voter base or ordinary people for that matter.
Gas is $4 a gallon?
We have discovered aliens!
More like over $5.00 per gallon, but your point stands.
So normal Europe prices from before this thing. It's up to $8.50 per gallon there now.
In Europe the gas price is mostly taxes, because "climate emergency".
I think it's just normal taxes.
Depends on the country but around 40-50% would be taxes, climate compensation and other stuff, yes.
My gas was $3.09/gal this morning
Still too expensive but not exactly going to bankrupt me.
SoCal gas is at least $6.85 a gallon.
$5.5 in PA.
Cries in UK $8 a gallon
Your gallons are a bit bigger than US gallons, but not 2x bigger.
WA state. I would be ecstatic if it was $4.
As Trump said, people won't need to worry about elections after 2024...
I wonder if Hitler ever said that in the 30s..
That was a pretty immediate Godwin’s Law moment. Comments like yours don't leave much room for a rational or mature conversation.
If you wish to divert from the discussion of whether free and fair elections is still possible in the USA, and would rather enter the meta-discussion, I'll bite, and cite Wikipedia:
> Godwin's law can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, a diversion, or even censorship, when miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole even when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
I mean, the comment is based on what the VP of this administration said about the President.
And I think considering what this administration has said is important. Do you think otherwise?
It's just going to be illegal.aliens.gov :(
https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2034000845503693180?s=46
There is this promotional campaign on-going, it could be related
https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome
It seems to be an incentive for voluntarily departure
That thing in the lake in the China poster, is that some AI nightmare hybrid between a Japanese Shinto shrine and a Chinese pagoda (EDIT: no, it seems to be real: https://img.visiontimes.com/2022/01/hangzhou-ge36163601_1920... - it's just the color that looks more like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Itsukushima_Shrine_Torii_...)? And of course the Taj Mahal in the India poster only has one tower. But I wouldn't put it past the current administration if they really printed 100,000 of these low-effort AI slop posters. The designer probably got a boatload of money for them too, after all the extremely generous budget increase for ICE has to go somewhere...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remigration
Objectively, which is hard to say because I’m just obviously not in this position, but if I were in the United States legally and I’m looking at three options…
1. I take self-deportation offer. At Christmas it was $3000 a person, but usually $1000, a commercial plane ticket anywhere, and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method. I can say goodbye to people I can sell my things. I can do this on my own timeline within reason.
2. I’ve risk it and trying to invade ice for the next three years minimum. If Vance wins, I need to make it to at least 2032 without showing up on any radar. I’m careful and looking over my shoulder constantly and work is a never ending dread.
3. I am caught by ICE. I have absolutely no claim to stay in the US. I can sit in a detention center while an NGO funded lawyer tells me that I do. And in high likelihood, I am sent back with no money on a cargo jet and I’m banned from the United States forever. This happens at any moment.
Practically speaking, I just cannot picture taking option two which could be three at any time. The fact is, I would know without a doubt, unfair or not that I am here legally, that my state would apply in any European country as well. I cannot fathom how option one is not the best option. Perhaps I’m too risk adverse.
"A commercial plane ticket anywhere" != the legal right to go anywhere
Pretty much you go back to your country of origin
Typically people take on the immense risk and challenge of leaving their country of origin to come here because their country of origin has really bad problems
Those problems likely still exist or have gotten worse over the last several years due to (if nothing else) COVID further separating the US economy from the rest of the world's
This administration changes its tune based on what business/tech leaders are telling them[0][1]. There's no doubt that ICE will be used for selective enforcement (as we've seen them used at American protests) but some immigrants are probably staying based on the reality that business interests are more important.
Also, I would be hesitant to say that immigrants being targeted by ICE are "illegal" as we saw some be detained/deported after speaking out against the war in Gaza[2]. Also, a lot claim asylum at the border which is a legal process.
> and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method
That process in reality takes a really long time due to the federal immigration system being strained. The 2024 border bill tried to address this by adding more immigration judges and asylum officers but Trump told Republicans to kill it because it'd make Biden look good. So far all we got was a massive DHS funding increase that allowed Kristi Noem to funnel $100M+ to herself and her friends and kill two American citizens with ICE.
0: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/15/us/politics/farm-labor-tr...
1: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5601588-trump-h1...
2: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2026/03/17/immigrati...
That subdomain would go well with war.gov too :)
illegal.aliens.gov/deportations :(
quick-deport.aliens.gov for a shortcut link (pre-fill info with known browser fingerprints correlated to ID).
Aliens tried to contact us, but Trump's DHS deported them.
they'd still be illegal so ya
We can finally be rid of that menace, Superman.
Probably related to the bear problems on the moon base: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3o-3pL79O4
If it's for aliens, why does it ask you to verify that you're human? This government makes no sense!
Interview with the Press Secretary
https://youtu.be/nCP3LZoxABs?si=2qspQFC-Imfwy2Ua
It's a cookbook!
And DNS hosted by Cloudflare. Who hosts DNS for other government websites?
All of .gov is contracted to Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/press/press-releases/2023/cloudfl...
cio.gov and trumpcard.gov are also Cloudflare.
Cloudflare has proudly protected Trump campaign websites for the last decade https://www.businessinsider.com/cloudflare-ceo-anonymous-ddo...
Okay or maybe they won the contract for `.gov` in 2023: https://www.cloudflare.com/press/press-releases/2023/cloudfl...
Of course it's gonna be the obvious NSA/CIA op hosting DNS.
They'd be stupid to use anybody else.
>obvious NSA/CIA op
there is so much you can legitimately be upset with cloudflare for, that i do not understand the need to exaggerate
Remember, alien is also a term also applied to non-us citizen people.
Ah good. So the diversity program is opening soon?
also alien.gov, why.gov, ai.gov...
aliens.gov is such a bait-y name. What is the requirement to register .gov domains?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.gov#Eligibility
they are trolling us
Red herring?
I guess they need more money for an agency that burns it. Using conspiracies to goat the dumbed down public to get the ok to spend more money on a pointless Space Force.
Thanks, now I forgot about the files again. Give me the aliens :-)
Which will be released in full first, the X-files or the Epstein files?
My guess:
"Welcome to Aliens.gov -- a friendly guide and reminder to leave."
...
"Ya fired."
if u want to avoid domaintools captcha noise - https://client.rdap.org/?type=domain&object=aliens.gov&follo...
They really want you to forget Epstein
I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords.
New Epstein files distraction?
More nonsense.
What was that card game that supposedly predicted the outcome of the future? Was there revealing the presence of aliens in the deck? /s
I remember reading shady sites in 00s, where the other side claimed that govts around the world will get along on this idea and with help of elaborated holograms hoax will tell populations that aliens are here among us/are about to invade.
Here, in the mid-20s it's much cheaper to do that with help of AI. /s
Anyway, guess it's "some kind of" distraction, again? /s
Illuminati? That game was ripper. Good times…
Fuck CAPTCHAs.
exactly what a bot would say.
adj. /ˈeɪ.li.ən/
coming from a different country, race, or group