The feature-array approach to createPlayer is smart. We did something similar splitting a monolith into per-feature packages and the hardest part wasn't the split itself, it was figuring out where the boundaries go. Two features look independent until you realize they share some piece of state that neither wants to own. Curious how they handle cross-feature state deps here.
Hey VJS core contributor here. We definitely feel that concern and we also don't yet have a silver bullet formalized. I suspect we'll need some kind of alternate implementations or feature augmentation at some point. We're currently doing things in a bit more ad hoc way, such as the interrelationship between PiP and Fullscreen (see, e.g.: https://github.com/videojs/v10/blob/main/packages/core/src/d...).
One other thing to note: because the features are "composed", we at least have a lot of flexibility here that makes me feel pretty good about the fundamentals and not "coding ourselves into a corner" here.
I was just lamenting the other day about the size of video.js, which is used in my legacy web app, and looking for a way to improve that. Very keen to explore how we could migrate to v10!
Congrats Steve! I haven't touched video since I was at JW Player a million years ago, but I always inspired by the simplicity of video.js (especially the theming).
Hope this new iteration is exceptionally successful.
Oh hi Zach! Blast from the past. Hope you’re doing well and thanks for the well wishes. Always enjoyed chatting you and the JW team at FOMS and conferences. The water’s warm back here in video tech if you ever want to jump back in!
Ah...you're scratching at some scabs with this totally reasonable question.
We learned some tough lessons with media-chrome[1] and Mux Player, where we tried to just write web components. The React side of things was a bit of a thorn, so we created React shims that provided a more idiomatic React experience and rendered the web components...which was mostly fine, but created a new set of issues. The reason we chose web components was to not have to write framework-specific code, and then we found ourselves doing both anyway.
With VJS 10 I think we've landed on a pretty reasonable middle ground. The core library is "headless," and then the rendering layer sits on top of it. Benefit is true React components and nice web components.
Is it not a web component, per se? Per the article, all the React stuff does seem to bake down to HTML Custom Elements, that get wired up by some client-side JS registering for them. That client-side JS is still a "web component", even if it's embedded inside React SPA code bundle, no?
If you mean "why do I need React / any kind of bundling; why can't I just include the minified video.js library as a script tag / ES6 module import?" — I'm guessing you can, but nobody should really want to, since half the point here is that the player JS that registers to back the custom elements, is now way smaller, because it's getting tree-shaken down to just the JS required to back the particular combination of custom elements that you happen to use on your site. And doing that requires that, at "compile time", the tree-shaking logic can understand the references from your views into the components of the player library. That's currently possible when your view is React components, but not yet possible (AFAIK) when your view is ordinary HTML containing HTML Custom Elements.
I guess you could say, if you want to think of it this way, that your buildscript / asset pipeline here ends up acting as a web-component factory to generate the final custom-tailored web-component for your website?
Looking great. I'll give it a try later on once things stabilize a bit.
In the meantime, does anyone know what's going on in this space? Seems to me like a lot is changing over the past year. Eg: react-player new version, taken over by Mux. And also I did realize Video.js is sponsored by Mux. And also seemingly different companies working together.
OP and Mux co-founder here so have all the context on this. A lot has changed. Mux stepped in to help maintain React Player a few years ago. It wasn't getting frequent updates and Mux has a vested interest in the whole OSS player ecosystem (even if we didn't built it) because Mux Video (hosting) is player agnostic, and we get support requests for all of them. @luwes from Mux did the work to get to the new version, while making it possible to use Media Chrome media elements with React Player and consolidating some development efforts. We're still a tiny player team so that was important.
There are no immediate plans to deprecate React Player and I think it holds a special place in the ecosystem, but there will be overlap with video.js v10 and if there's specific features you care about or feel are missing, or if you think we're doing a bad job, please voice it here.
It was a similar story with Vidstack and Plyr, with Mux first sponsoring the projects. That's how I met Rahim and Sam, and how we got talking about a shared vision for the future of players.
Thank you! I’m on the Video.js team, and we’d love for you to try the library out and share your feedback. We’re especially eager to hear from developers who used or tried v8 in the past.
We’re taking a new approach to the library with a lot of new concepts, so your feedback would help us a ton during Beta as we figure out what’s working well and what isn’t.
I'm on the Video.js team, just wanted to say thank you! Means a lot and we'd be eager to hear your experience trying it out. Feel free to drop a GitHub issue or discussion post if you ever get a chance :)
From me, this is a massive relief after we just deployed a bunch of videos to Vimeo. The next week they were bought.
I'm a one-man operation. In the order of hundreds of videos served a week. All I want is control over my own destiny. If this and a VPS can do that, that'll be amazing. Thank you for doing this.
We currently already use video.js, and our framework us used all over the place, so we’d be the perfect use case for you guys.
How would we use video.js 10 instead, and for what? We would like to load a small video player, for videos, but which ones? Only mp4 files or can we somehow stream chunks via HTTP without setting up ridiculous streaming servers like Wowsa or Red5 in 2026?
Did the private equity buy the domain videojs.org (did it take control of the project and you somehow regained control after selling) or was this domain (and the project) always under your control?
can anyone recommend me good, battle-tested "slider" solution for playing videos as well as displaying images from single gallery? ideally capable of handling huge galleries (hundreds of items) with lazy loading
Not a today answer, but this is something I'm excited to build within the new Presets concept of video.js v10, where we can build specific "video interfaces" beyond a standard player using the composable architecture.
Are there any plans to support other frontend frameworks? If I wanted to use it today in something like svelte how should I go about it?
The feature-array approach to createPlayer is smart. We did something similar splitting a monolith into per-feature packages and the hardest part wasn't the split itself, it was figuring out where the boundaries go. Two features look independent until you realize they share some piece of state that neither wants to own. Curious how they handle cross-feature state deps here.
Hey VJS core contributor here. We definitely feel that concern and we also don't yet have a silver bullet formalized. I suspect we'll need some kind of alternate implementations or feature augmentation at some point. We're currently doing things in a bit more ad hoc way, such as the interrelationship between PiP and Fullscreen (see, e.g.: https://github.com/videojs/v10/blob/main/packages/core/src/d...).
One other thing to note: because the features are "composed", we at least have a lot of flexibility here that makes me feel pretty good about the fundamentals and not "coding ourselves into a corner" here.
Please stop posting AI-generated comments. Your post history is full of them.
I was just lamenting the other day about the size of video.js, which is used in my legacy web app, and looking for a way to improve that. Very keen to explore how we could migrate to v10!
Drop a note in discussions or issues! Would love to hear what you’re working with.
https://github.com/videojs/v10/discussions
Congrats Steve! I haven't touched video since I was at JW Player a million years ago, but I always inspired by the simplicity of video.js (especially the theming).
Hope this new iteration is exceptionally successful.
Oh hi Zach! Blast from the past. Hope you’re doing well and thanks for the well wishes. Always enjoyed chatting you and the JW team at FOMS and conferences. The water’s warm back here in video tech if you ever want to jump back in!
Out of curiousity, why not distribute this as a webcomponent? It's a perfect use case for it - a semantic object that has built in controls / chrome.
Ah...you're scratching at some scabs with this totally reasonable question.
We learned some tough lessons with media-chrome[1] and Mux Player, where we tried to just write web components. The React side of things was a bit of a thorn, so we created React shims that provided a more idiomatic React experience and rendered the web components...which was mostly fine, but created a new set of issues. The reason we chose web components was to not have to write framework-specific code, and then we found ourselves doing both anyway.
With VJS 10 I think we've landed on a pretty reasonable middle ground. The core library is "headless," and then the rendering layer sits on top of it. Benefit is true React components and nice web components.
[1] https://github.com/muxinc/media-chrome
Is it not a web component, per se? Per the article, all the React stuff does seem to bake down to HTML Custom Elements, that get wired up by some client-side JS registering for them. That client-side JS is still a "web component", even if it's embedded inside React SPA code bundle, no?
If you mean "why do I need React / any kind of bundling; why can't I just include the minified video.js library as a script tag / ES6 module import?" — I'm guessing you can, but nobody should really want to, since half the point here is that the player JS that registers to back the custom elements, is now way smaller, because it's getting tree-shaken down to just the JS required to back the particular combination of custom elements that you happen to use on your site. And doing that requires that, at "compile time", the tree-shaking logic can understand the references from your views into the components of the player library. That's currently possible when your view is React components, but not yet possible (AFAIK) when your view is ordinary HTML containing HTML Custom Elements.
I guess you could say, if you want to think of it this way, that your buildscript / asset pipeline here ends up acting as a web-component factory to generate the final custom-tailored web-component for your website?
I just happened to try v10 yesterday for HLS and it's looking great so far.
Awesome to hear!
Looking great. I'll give it a try later on once things stabilize a bit. In the meantime, does anyone know what's going on in this space? Seems to me like a lot is changing over the past year. Eg: react-player new version, taken over by Mux. And also I did realize Video.js is sponsored by Mux. And also seemingly different companies working together.
OP and Mux co-founder here so have all the context on this. A lot has changed. Mux stepped in to help maintain React Player a few years ago. It wasn't getting frequent updates and Mux has a vested interest in the whole OSS player ecosystem (even if we didn't built it) because Mux Video (hosting) is player agnostic, and we get support requests for all of them. @luwes from Mux did the work to get to the new version, while making it possible to use Media Chrome media elements with React Player and consolidating some development efforts. We're still a tiny player team so that was important.
There are no immediate plans to deprecate React Player and I think it holds a special place in the ecosystem, but there will be overlap with video.js v10 and if there's specific features you care about or feel are missing, or if you think we're doing a bad job, please voice it here.
It was a similar story with Vidstack and Plyr, with Mux first sponsoring the projects. That's how I met Rahim and Sam, and how we got talking about a shared vision for the future of players.
Very nice! I switched off video.js some time ago because it kept giving me trouble. Looking forward to trying this new version.
Thank you! I’m on the Video.js team, and we’d love for you to try the library out and share your feedback. We’re especially eager to hear from developers who used or tried v8 in the past.
We’re taking a new approach to the library with a lot of new concepts, so your feedback would help us a ton during Beta as we figure out what’s working well and what isn’t.
Absolutely love what you and your friends have built. Great work! Will give it a spin.
I'm on the Video.js team, just wanted to say thank you! Means a lot and we'd be eager to hear your experience trying it out. Feel free to drop a GitHub issue or discussion post if you ever get a chance :)
From me, this is a massive relief after we just deployed a bunch of videos to Vimeo. The next week they were bought.
I'm a one-man operation. In the order of hundreds of videos served a week. All I want is control over my own destiny. If this and a VPS can do that, that'll be amazing. Thank you for doing this.
Serious question. We currently have this tool in our framework, that we use to play videos from youtube, vimeo, and a whole lot of other sites:
https://github.com/Qbix/Platform/blob/main/platform/plugins/...
We currently already use video.js, and our framework us used all over the place, so we’d be the perfect use case for you guys.
How would we use video.js 10 instead, and for what? We would like to load a small video player, for videos, but which ones? Only mp4 files or can we somehow stream chunks via HTTP without setting up ridiculous streaming servers like Wowsa or Red5 in 2026?
Very nice. Good Luck!
Did the private equity buy the domain videojs.org (did it take control of the project and you somehow regained control after selling) or was this domain (and the project) always under your control?
can anyone recommend me good, battle-tested "slider" solution for playing videos as well as displaying images from single gallery? ideally capable of handling huge galleries (hundreds of items) with lazy loading
Not a today answer, but this is something I'm excited to build within the new Presets concept of video.js v10, where we can build specific "video interfaces" beyond a standard player using the composable architecture.
https://videojs.org/docs/framework/react/concepts/presets
I've used https://yet-another-react-lightbox.com/ in anger and it's great, very extensible too.
That only works in React though.
this is lovely work
Thank you!
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