In a long run people may become more positive towards renewables but in a short run many countries are ramping up coal use and oil companies outside the gulf are getting windfall profits which they’ll continue to use to bribe politicians.
The poor people that vote Democrat are in a large part also responsible for what is going on.
If you rewind time back to the election in 2024, in the year leading up to it, if you were to treat conservatives like the pieces of shit that they are in social settings, the vast majority of people including the poorer people that vote Democrat, would think you are an insane leftist.
And even today, with all the shit going on, its really quite unclear to me that anyone who supports Trump isn't treated with absolute disdain, if not violence. There are still people who are conservatives that think what Trump is doing is right, that still mingle with liberals in social groups, and everyone is just supposed to respect each other.
Somehow, there is a disconnect in peoples heads, where saying bigoted, racist, hateful shit is not ok, but voting for someone who does and makes policy around those ideas is supposed to be respected as a "political opinion", and we are supposed to focus on unity on people who want to actively make our lives worse.
Without the general public shift where conservatives are seen as absolute evil, nothing is going to change. Even in the best case scenario where Dems take the house and then the presidency, nothing is going to really change, we will just vote another conservative down the line, and now, they have a playbook of what went right and what went wrong during Trumps term, so they can rob the country even more and get away with it.
So the best anyone can hope for is for everyone to get whiplash from reality hitting them so hard in the face that they start paying attention.
As someone from Europe, to me the democrats don’t seem to particularly care about poor people either. They apparently do a slightly better job than the republicans, but that’s not a very high bar.
Firstly, the Democrats have done way more to actually help the poor people. Just under Bidens term, expansion of the child tax credit has been a huge help, and the infrastructure bill creates a whole lot of jobs.
Secondly, just know that your "centrist" position mask no longer works to hide your right wing views. You aren't fooling anyone when you compare democrats to a literal pedophiles and say both are bad. Luckily though, the EU isn't a bunch of pussies, and people like you can get arrested for lying and spreading misinformation.
The problem is that there is a good amount of people who claim that they are on the left, but ideologically on the right, just like with all the people who did not vote for Kamala because of her stances on Israel. They basically want someone who is just like Trump that would carry out their version of ideal governance without giving a fuck if it destroys the country.
So its not about left vs right anymore, its about sanity vs insanity. You are either for returning to some level of normalcy, and understand that no matter what the Dems faults are, their worst policies or people are way way better than anything that the right has to offer, and criticizing them at this point on any of that is just pointless.
> Secondly, just know that your "centrist" position mask no longer works to hide your right wing views.
Not the person you are replying to, but as someone who is most definetly not right, or centre, I find the democrats very half hearted.
I don't think that you voting for the better of the two makes you right wing (you are limited by the options you have, and by the reality of the impact of your vote), but I do hope the next Democrat administration has the courage to just dictate through executive orders to give Medicade for all, etc, since they have the cover of the current adminstrations trying to create rules to make it all legal.
I really don't know if this is just a symptom of non understanding how bad the situation is. Just for reference, even at the best possible outcome of elections, your life is going to get dramatically harder over the next 10 years because of all the shit Trump did. Jobs are gonna disappear, your house value is going to go down, everything will be more expensive, and your options abroad will be MUCH more limited. No amount of policy is going to fix the seeded distrust that the world has against US, and thats not going to change anytime soon.
If we ever return to some normalcy, then we can have a discussion about the faults with Dems.
Because right now, this rhetoric is akin to being on a sinking ship, and your options are either to be torn apart by sharks in the water, or be on a lifeboat, and you are saying the lifeboat sucks because it doesn't have a sun shade.
Trump is accidentally the greatest champion of climate change prevention ever. Nobody could have done this much to get off oil if they tried.
In a long run people may become more positive towards renewables but in a short run many countries are ramping up coal use and oil companies outside the gulf are getting windfall profits which they’ll continue to use to bribe politicians.
Good. This needs to happen in US as well. Gas needs to go towards $20+ a gallon.
This is the kind of "pain" that makes people start paying attention to who they vote for and not vote just on vibes.
It would be nice if the people hit hardest by this weren’t the poorest.
The poor people that vote Democrat are in a large part also responsible for what is going on.
If you rewind time back to the election in 2024, in the year leading up to it, if you were to treat conservatives like the pieces of shit that they are in social settings, the vast majority of people including the poorer people that vote Democrat, would think you are an insane leftist.
And even today, with all the shit going on, its really quite unclear to me that anyone who supports Trump isn't treated with absolute disdain, if not violence. There are still people who are conservatives that think what Trump is doing is right, that still mingle with liberals in social groups, and everyone is just supposed to respect each other.
Somehow, there is a disconnect in peoples heads, where saying bigoted, racist, hateful shit is not ok, but voting for someone who does and makes policy around those ideas is supposed to be respected as a "political opinion", and we are supposed to focus on unity on people who want to actively make our lives worse.
Without the general public shift where conservatives are seen as absolute evil, nothing is going to change. Even in the best case scenario where Dems take the house and then the presidency, nothing is going to really change, we will just vote another conservative down the line, and now, they have a playbook of what went right and what went wrong during Trumps term, so they can rob the country even more and get away with it.
So the best anyone can hope for is for everyone to get whiplash from reality hitting them so hard in the face that they start paying attention.
As someone from Europe, to me the democrats don’t seem to particularly care about poor people either. They apparently do a slightly better job than the republicans, but that’s not a very high bar.
Firstly, the Democrats have done way more to actually help the poor people. Just under Bidens term, expansion of the child tax credit has been a huge help, and the infrastructure bill creates a whole lot of jobs.
Secondly, just know that your "centrist" position mask no longer works to hide your right wing views. You aren't fooling anyone when you compare democrats to a literal pedophiles and say both are bad. Luckily though, the EU isn't a bunch of pussies, and people like you can get arrested for lying and spreading misinformation.
I usually vote for left-of-center parties in my country and find your comment needlessly aggressive.
The problem is that there is a good amount of people who claim that they are on the left, but ideologically on the right, just like with all the people who did not vote for Kamala because of her stances on Israel. They basically want someone who is just like Trump that would carry out their version of ideal governance without giving a fuck if it destroys the country.
So its not about left vs right anymore, its about sanity vs insanity. You are either for returning to some level of normalcy, and understand that no matter what the Dems faults are, their worst policies or people are way way better than anything that the right has to offer, and criticizing them at this point on any of that is just pointless.
> Secondly, just know that your "centrist" position mask no longer works to hide your right wing views.
Not the person you are replying to, but as someone who is most definetly not right, or centre, I find the democrats very half hearted.
I don't think that you voting for the better of the two makes you right wing (you are limited by the options you have, and by the reality of the impact of your vote), but I do hope the next Democrat administration has the courage to just dictate through executive orders to give Medicade for all, etc, since they have the cover of the current adminstrations trying to create rules to make it all legal.
> I find the democrats very half hearted.
I really don't know if this is just a symptom of non understanding how bad the situation is. Just for reference, even at the best possible outcome of elections, your life is going to get dramatically harder over the next 10 years because of all the shit Trump did. Jobs are gonna disappear, your house value is going to go down, everything will be more expensive, and your options abroad will be MUCH more limited. No amount of policy is going to fix the seeded distrust that the world has against US, and thats not going to change anytime soon.
If we ever return to some normalcy, then we can have a discussion about the faults with Dems.
Because right now, this rhetoric is akin to being on a sinking ship, and your options are either to be torn apart by sharks in the water, or be on a lifeboat, and you are saying the lifeboat sucks because it doesn't have a sun shade.
poorest need to be hit the hardest as historically they vote for wrong people who ensure they stay poorest