Wow Angular Aria looks fantastic. Even have full docs for the more complicated scenarios like autocomplete. Can't wait to get this in my hands and see if it replaces the custom screen reader autocomplete I had to make.
Maybe I'm dumb, but I go to: https://angular.dev/guide/aria/overview#showcase and try out the keyboard controls, somehow they've decided that those elements should be navigated with the arrow keys instead of much more commonly used tab and shift+tab? Even the tabs from their own documentation, right above that example, also uses tab/shift-tab for moving focus between them.
I must admit, modern angular has been a pleasure to use. It's a shame that the ecosystem is a little rough. Luckily you get so much out of the box already.
I wish Angular dropped their weird compiler that's tight coupled to tsc and moved into more pluggable approach so you can use it with whatever TS compiler. App and unit test cold build times are still crap, but at least with a coding agent you care about this less.
Angular should ditch the compiler altogether - it really hinders them in so many ways, especially now with AI-codegen where tools have to specifically choose to do the work to integrate the Angular toolchain instead of using plain TypeScript and HTML.
"plain TypeScript"? Just like Angular, TypeScript depends on a compiler too, regardless of where in your toolchain it is, unless I missed browsers somehow being able to straight up run TypeScript nowadays. Bit ironic to cite "ditch the compiler" as the reason to switch from one compiler to another.
Or I mean, you could just use Django (or some faster backend with templating and SSR). Using that with htmx you get the SPA experience and still without the madness of an actual rotten JS ecosystem.
Angular has made my programming career joy and it has not felt like work at all, all the best to angular dev team! Nothing better than getting to work with favorite language, learning better and getting paid :D
the biggest problem in angular is that it is so hard to use a custom toolchain, i.e. not their angular/cli product instead mix it with other stuff in lets say vite
What kinds of features or workflows are you missing that Angular's CLI doesn't cover? Or is it just that you're used to Vite (or something else) and wish you could use that instead of Angular's own tooling?
I'm not on the Angular development team or anything, though I do use Angular at $DAY_JOB and I'm overall perfectly fine with the framework and its tooling. However, the grass might be greener elsewhere; I'm just not familiar with it!
Seems like Angular has gotten better since v2 (my last experience).
Has anyone done a modern Angular vs. React comparison that's not an AI slop article?
I'm also curious if it's "simple made easy" for performant applications. React is arguably "simple made hard", but there are notable, highly performant applications written with it (Linear comes to mind).
Modern Angular is MUCH nicer to use than the v2 days (or even the v4 days when I first started working with it). A lot of the required boilerplate is unnecessary nowadays. And even RxJS and NgRX are becoming less and less necessary to use too, which is great.
Wow Angular Aria looks fantastic. Even have full docs for the more complicated scenarios like autocomplete. Can't wait to get this in my hands and see if it replaces the custom screen reader autocomplete I had to make.
Maybe I'm dumb, but I go to: https://angular.dev/guide/aria/overview#showcase and try out the keyboard controls, somehow they've decided that those elements should be navigated with the arrow keys instead of much more commonly used tab and shift+tab? Even the tabs from their own documentation, right above that example, also uses tab/shift-tab for moving focus between them.
I must admit, modern angular has been a pleasure to use. It's a shame that the ecosystem is a little rough. Luckily you get so much out of the box already.
Same experience here.
I wish Angular dropped their weird compiler that's tight coupled to tsc and moved into more pluggable approach so you can use it with whatever TS compiler. App and unit test cold build times are still crap, but at least with a coding agent you care about this less.
Angular should ditch the compiler altogether - it really hinders them in so many ways, especially now with AI-codegen where tools have to specifically choose to do the work to integrate the Angular toolchain instead of using plain TypeScript and HTML.
"plain TypeScript"? Just like Angular, TypeScript depends on a compiler too, regardless of where in your toolchain it is, unless I missed browsers somehow being able to straight up run TypeScript nowadays. Bit ironic to cite "ditch the compiler" as the reason to switch from one compiler to another.
Are projects still chosing to pick RxJS (or equivalent) which make the code heavily layered and a pain to debug?
Or has sanity reached the Angular ecosystem by now?
I believe Signals are the go-to now, but surely RxJS is still present for complex use cases. Are Zones fully gone?
As of v21, zoneless is the default
https://angular.love/angular-21-whats-new
Everything is signals now.
I like Angular, it feels a bit like Django. Easy to use with everything included.
Or I mean, you could just use Django (or some faster backend with templating and SSR). Using that with htmx you get the SPA experience and still without the madness of an actual rotten JS ecosystem.
Angular has made my programming career joy and it has not felt like work at all, all the best to angular dev team! Nothing better than getting to work with favorite language, learning better and getting paid :D
Using angular in 2026 is mad :D
Have you used it in the last 8 years? Its actually quite a good piece of software.
the biggest problem in angular is that it is so hard to use a custom toolchain, i.e. not their angular/cli product instead mix it with other stuff in lets say vite
What kinds of features or workflows are you missing that Angular's CLI doesn't cover? Or is it just that you're used to Vite (or something else) and wish you could use that instead of Angular's own tooling?
I'm not on the Angular development team or anything, though I do use Angular at $DAY_JOB and I'm overall perfectly fine with the framework and its tooling. However, the grass might be greener elsewhere; I'm just not familiar with it!
for many people this is the biggest bonus
Seems like Angular has gotten better since v2 (my last experience).
Has anyone done a modern Angular vs. React comparison that's not an AI slop article?
I'm also curious if it's "simple made easy" for performant applications. React is arguably "simple made hard", but there are notable, highly performant applications written with it (Linear comes to mind).
Angular Control Flow alone is a massive QoL improvement compared to the React way to do template conditions, switches, loops, etc.
https://angular.dev/guide/templates/control-flow
Modern Angular is MUCH nicer to use than the v2 days (or even the v4 days when I first started working with it). A lot of the required boilerplate is unnecessary nowadays. And even RxJS and NgRX are becoming less and less necessary to use too, which is great.