I just caught myself thinking Pantos shouldn’t have answered the phone. Not in a blame the victim way, more in that never answering the phone is just good opsec at this point. The phone, the door, just don’t talk to a cop without a lawyer. They don’t come to you to be helpful to -you-.
Except in this case in a broader sense, we know about something we wouldn’t have otherwise
Whenever I would talk to people about the importance of privacy in data and online activity, people would always say something like "I don't care, I've got nothing to hide. I'm not some weird pervert." And yeah I'm not either but this kind of stuff is why it's important. Fascism thrives on knowledge of the people it wants to oppress.
It's trite, but saying you don't care about privacy rights because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
>Department of Homeland Security officials have repeatedly denied having a database tracking U.S. citizen protesters or a database of "domestic terrorists", even as anecdotes like what happened to Pantos and Williams suggest federal agents are collecting observers' information in some capacity.
The real list of domestic terrorists is the DHS employee payroll for ICE and CBP.
The DHS's list of people who observe them is not standalone, they say they integrate it into existing databases, and this is their strongest claim. But it's just obfuscation, the intent, that they maintain a list of normal people who observe them so they can terrorize them has been confirmed.
I think that we should have a Schengen Area of the Americas, but observing the problems that this has caused the E.U. (Brexit), a proper implementation would require a much more controlled and gradual approach.
Schengen Area has open borders with a common visa policy.
>free movement of EU citizens, [...] has nothing to do with Schengen.
Did you mis-speak?
One of the things leading up to Brexit was politicians claiming we couldn't police our borders without getting out of the EU. That was of course false. Almost the opposite in practical terms.
Presumably, if UK were to return to the EU we would do so without our past veto, and as part of Schengen. That makes it less desirable.
I just caught myself thinking Pantos shouldn’t have answered the phone. Not in a blame the victim way, more in that never answering the phone is just good opsec at this point. The phone, the door, just don’t talk to a cop without a lawyer. They don’t come to you to be helpful to -you-.
Except in this case in a broader sense, we know about something we wouldn’t have otherwise
Whenever I would talk to people about the importance of privacy in data and online activity, people would always say something like "I don't care, I've got nothing to hide. I'm not some weird pervert." And yeah I'm not either but this kind of stuff is why it's important. Fascism thrives on knowledge of the people it wants to oppress.
It's trite, but saying you don't care about privacy rights because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
Just correct them more blatantly:
I dont care about the fourth amendment, I have nothing to hide.
>Department of Homeland Security officials have repeatedly denied having a database tracking U.S. citizen protesters or a database of "domestic terrorists", even as anecdotes like what happened to Pantos and Williams suggest federal agents are collecting observers' information in some capacity.
The real list of domestic terrorists is the DHS employee payroll for ICE and CBP.
The DHS's list of people who observe them is not standalone, they say they integrate it into existing databases, and this is their strongest claim. But it's just obfuscation, the intent, that they maintain a list of normal people who observe them so they can terrorize them has been confirmed.
> The real list of domestic terrorists is the DHS employee payroll for ICE and CBP.
Such a brave take
Welcome to the list.
posting a sardonic comment like that? also list.
Replying to a sardonic comment - believe it or not, list.
Posting a level 3 meme comment? Straight to list.
Wait a minute, are we the baddies?
I think that we should have a Schengen Area of the Americas, but observing the problems that this has caused the E.U. (Brexit), a proper implementation would require a much more controlled and gradual approach.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area
Edit: It would be most pleasant to delete this comment. Drat.
But Britain was never in the Schengen area. One of their many "we are an island, we are different" privileges
What's the connection between Schengen and Brexit?
To give more context:
The UK is not and has never been in Schengen.
I guess GP is taking about free movement of EU citizens, but that has nothing to do with Schengen.
Schengen Area has open borders with a common visa policy.
>free movement of EU citizens, [...] has nothing to do with Schengen.
Did you mis-speak?
One of the things leading up to Brexit was politicians claiming we couldn't police our borders without getting out of the EU. That was of course false. Almost the opposite in practical terms.
Presumably, if UK were to return to the EU we would do so without our past veto, and as part of Schengen. That makes it less desirable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area
Not all EU countries are in Schengen so why would the UK have to be part of it if it rejoined the EU?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_of_Free_Association is somewhat similar