> An XQuartz installation consists of many individual pieces of software which have various licenses. The X.Org software components’ licenses are discussed on the X.Org Foundation Licenses page.[1] The quartz-wm[2] window manager included with the XQuartz distribution uses the Apple Public Source License Version 2.[3]
People have all kind of opinions about xlibre as a project and the politics around it that I'm not interested in, but if they're driving xorg to improve, that's a good thing.
I'm not some anti-wayland zealot but you will pry xfce out of my cold dead hands.
Yeah, but they haven't added any features in years, from what I assumed to be a maintenance only/feature frozen stance in favor of Wayland, which is (primarily) why xlibre forked.
With a project as user/dev hostile as wayland, it's much better to be a 'last mover' than first.
For the life of me, I'll never understand how wayland got traction with the community.
'Hey guys, we decided to implement a display server from scratch! We broke a ton of existing functionality and made a ton of low level stuff that X used to handle the responsibility of WM/DE devs!'
The mention of XQuartz (for macOS) reminded me to check that, and 2.8.6 was released mid-July:
* https://www.xquartz.org/releases/bare/XQuartz-2.8.6.html
Previously 2.8.5 was out in 2023:
* https://www.xquartz.org/releases/bare/XQuartz-2.8.5.html
There's a XQuartz 2.8.7 beta as well (xorg-server 26.1 rebase):
* https://www.xquartz.org/releases/index.html
omg, it's been over a decade since I have last used XQuartz. Did they finally open source the whole quartz-wm?
> An XQuartz installation consists of many individual pieces of software which have various licenses. The X.Org software components’ licenses are discussed on the X.Org Foundation Licenses page.[1] The quartz-wm[2] window manager included with the XQuartz distribution uses the Apple Public Source License Version 2.[3]
* https://www.xquartz.org/index.html
Just looked it up, that Apple license is indeed approved as open source/free software by the FSF and OSI!
Ah, I can see that the binary blob is not needed anymore. Nice.
Isn't most of this already in xlibre?
People have all kind of opinions about xlibre as a project and the politics around it that I'm not interested in, but if they're driving xorg to improve, that's a good thing.
I'm not some anti-wayland zealot but you will pry xfce out of my cold dead hands.
Xorg has had releases for years and will continue to do so. But as you can see in the announcement, enterprise users are the driving factor.
Yeah, but they haven't added any features in years, from what I assumed to be a maintenance only/feature frozen stance in favor of Wayland, which is (primarily) why xlibre forked.
Even xfce will one day move to Wayland.
With a project as user/dev hostile as wayland, it's much better to be a 'last mover' than first.
For the life of me, I'll never understand how wayland got traction with the community.
'Hey guys, we decided to implement a display server from scratch! We broke a ton of existing functionality and made a ton of low level stuff that X used to handle the responsibility of WM/DE devs!'
There's already and experimental support no?
And I'll be there.
Intel modesetting driver with tearfree support in a xorg release!