I may be missing something, but this is exactly what I want as a default. I want the session links there. I see PRs from my coworkers with session links.
I still get to control whether other people can see the session, but I don’t lose it.
I don’t get the “unprofessional” argument. This is attribution. Attribution is professional. If you don’t want it, you turn it off or rewrite the commit messages. If you are having Claude write the commit messages FOR YOU and you are NOT READING THEM then that’s what’s unprofessional. I am honestly kind of shocked and disappointed by how upset people are by this.
Which is actually why I DON'T like the session amended. Ultimately it is an ad placed into the Git log, and noise at that. Regardless of if it exists or not, the professional responsibility for what is contained in that PR/commit falls to the feet of the developer contributing it.
Microsoft previously did this with Copilot, which was correctly met with a very negative response. I don't see why an ad by Anthropic is better than an ad from Microsoft.
I'm not sure i see it as an ad. "Sent from my iPhone" is an ad because the iPhone is not a meaningful part of sending the email. Claude is a meaningful part of the commit though if you're using it, so to me it's more like clarity or transparency than an advertisement.
You don't see how a link to "https://claude.ai/.." in the Git log is an ad for Cluade/Anthropic? It feels exactly like "Sent from an iPhone" to me, and has exactly the same value to people reviewing the Git log later (i.e. none).
Keep in mind that if you run across someone else's spam in the Git logs:
- You need a Claude account.
- You need permission to view the session.
The only people who can just follow that link and look at how Claude was used, is Anthropic themselves. Therefore, they can also use it as an additional mechanism to tie sessions back to other IDs/identities. For everyone else this is "Sent from an iPhone" but longer.
I agree. But I think I would also like the OS to put a fingerprint (I.e committed on macOSX in /usr/marc/… while he was watching porn on xxx). This way we can get the full context by default and better understand the PRs.
The way I see it, the conversation transcript is the important part. The specific link to claude.ai nor the model itself is important to me. Otherwise we'll all just be linking out to 10 different AI model providers websites to see history. I'd rather it be some open solution.
Models change so much that I don't really see why anybody cares what model was used to generate the code after the fact. It changes every few months and they're non-deterministic so its not like you'll ever "recreate" the same conversation yourself anyways.
How would it know for certain it was used for a given commit? What if there was no code? What if the approach was different, but some lines were the same?
I think some folks think that using an LLM is a shameful act and this is somehow shaming it and others believe that it ties back to the conversation. These conversations don't have any guarantee of being accessible over the long haul. If there was value in the conversation, the conversation should be somehow captured as well, not just some URLs.
Realistically, what do you actually get from viewing people's sessions? I honestly don't really understand why people care.
The specific model used can't be important because theres a new trending one every couple weeks nowadays. The conversation could be wildly out there and have 10+ different iterations of the same thing in it that led to the final product, etc.
It's not like before AI we were asking people to explain every single iteration they went through in their commit body, or to see their entire internal dialogue.
I don't really understand people's hype around needing to see the conversation they had with their AI. As long as the code itself is self-documented and final decisions are relatively well-documented future agents and humans will pick up on it much faster than reading the entire transcripts anyways.
That's not even bringing into the fact that there are people who use multiple models, multiple sessions, multiple harnesses across the same commits/changesets. How do you reconcile those alongside people who could have made human changes in the end?
I agree that attribution is professional. What I would worry about is people using the link to supply the reasoning behind the change without putting it into the commit message. Then you have the problem of needing to load the session to understand the change, when one would ideally be able to get that context from source control alone.
I'm OK with the attribution, but I just didn't like a session URL appearing on a public repo all of a sudden. I was left wondering "did I just leak my private session?"
I don't understand why it isn't opt-in. Or at least a heads-up somewhere.
Same. Over relied on and far less clear than alternatives 99% of the time. Claude is a shitty English writer that is only tolerated for it’s coding ability.
Sure, but it does spook some people like me where I frequently mention context in session like: "it would be better to fix this on the backend, but that is a separate team that moves VERY slowly", etc. And I don't want that accidentally getting broadcast.
It is because many "developers" want to pretend that they have read the code and have understood it so they can claim it as their own.
Attribution is indeed professional. If you use an AI to write the code for you and have no idea why you accepted the decisions it made nor can you explain them to another human, that would be clear evidence of acute skill atrophy.
I don't see any issue with this at all. I noticed it the other day and thought it was convenient. The same way I let the agent tag the PRs/commits with its name. I want to know what was used, in fact I wish it would identify the model used.
I'm not embarrassed by my LLM usage and I want to provide a full audit trail whenever possible to aid myself in the future.
PS: Claude archives old conversations on your computer after 30days. I've started archiving mine to the side as well for potential future use.
I use many tools to develop software and if my IDE would silently start adding "This commit was created with IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate" I'd find it intrusive and obnoxious, too.
If IDEA recorded my manual edits as events and attached a transcript to my commits I don't think I'd mind. If they just tagged it to put their name in that's different.
Knowing which model created the code has more "weight" to it than the editor IMHO which is why I think this is different. Adding the session link is a nice touch.
In my last project I wrote most stuff by hand but also used various Anthropic models, Gemini something and GLM 5.2. By line count the #1 was probably the IDE autocomplete though mostly for boring field initializations and the likes. The "hardest" part was some reverse engineering by GLM that Claude refused but that resultend in zero lines directly. So, how to attribute this?
Allowing tools to insert themselves into the git history only makes sense if you are purely vibecoding with a single model and don't even bother to check and clean it up anymore. Is this truly the default state of software development already? How the times have changed.
Deletes off your computer. I'm don't know what else they might be doing with it. They keep slimmed down summaries (on your comptuer) I believe but not the full context.
This is probably a controversial take, but I love this. Back in the early days of claude code I had to write a script (well, claude wrote it) to pull out the session id and append it to every commit. It's a lifesaver when you are trying to debug an old commit to pull up the chat session that actually wrote it.
I think its the beginning of a larger trend where Anthropic makes its infeasible to use Claude without Claude getting credit. Not for ethical reasons, but business reasons. Fingerprinting supports this as well.
Im speculating. And these are little things that are reasonable by itself. They are ethical. But I dont think Anthropic wants Claude to ultimately be a tool that produces some output that just gets integrated into some human’s work product. IE they dont care much about authors utilizing Claude for writing their papers or books. They do care about Claude becoming the most prolific published author by orders of magnitude. And not being “plagiarized.”
Just because it's not in the title and most people won't be scrolling all the way down: its only enabled for web and Remote Control sessions, per a maintainer.
Thing is, if you enable remote control for one session, it becomes globally enabled for all (which I personally prefer as I want to access all my sessions from my phone).
Wouldn't think I'd be cheering Antrophic decision, but this is excellent.
They probably were thinking about how that serves them as an ad, not about transparency, but still.
I say they should go one step further and somehow make it harder/inconvenient to turn it off (big tech is good at this already, so...); or, maybe, hide that option behind extra feature under premium subscription or something.
P.S. The comments are pure gold. They don't like they can't fake authorship and have the audacity to be indignant!
I really like working using Claude Code, but Anthropic has a really bad tendency to push out new "features" like this as default-on, through auto-update. That, and their models trying to do everything through bash (including editing files) is enough that I'm seriously looking in to switching harness to pi.
Presumably quietly added default-on because everyone had turned attribution off.
Again, if you challenge it “It came from my harness instructions” and obviously telling it not to in memory is about as successful as… any other instruction in memory, about 60% of the time.
Attribution should be opt-in, but they already support it. Via CLAUDE.md where you can specify how exactly AI contribution should be documented. Relying on whatever convention your vendor will establish isn‘t a good idea. Vendors are replaced, project conventions stay, so it‘s better to state your expectations in writing, instead of assuming that someone guesses them right and maintains conformance forever.
I like claude code, I use it quite a bit for things, and I don't mind the attribution (I do not plan to deceive people of me using AI or not for a change) and I think a link back to the session is valueable after the fact. At least for me, the session contains a lot of discussion, back and forth, changes from me and more. (Also, if the feature is not on by default, it probably might not exist.)
However, I think claude code needs better change management. It changes quite frequent and I think changes like these should be communicated better in software. (Like a card game may show card changes in game when a patch happened.) It may impact how I do things when creating the commit messages or PRs.
Hard boundaries there simply don't exist for most workflows, and I suspect if they did, it'd be at the expense of things ~nobody would want to give up.
On one hand I guess it is fine to automatically tag that the commit was AI-generated. On the other hand, this will happen even if you audit every line and add your own changes too, which means the attribution is misleading.
For a good chunk of my AI coding work, I make my own commits. I add Assisited-by: to them. I glance at the AI commit messages, and though I usually come up with my own messages sometimes I paraphrase. This would just make it a bit more annoying to review the AI commit messages, though I could hide it.
Interesting. According to the definition in that Wikipedia link, "copyfraud" is claiming copyright on public domain content.
Does this mean a company can take code from an open source project that used AI, put it into their closed source code, potentially modify it, all without attribution?
Yes, that's exactly what it means. AI works are public domain by default. Copyright law requires the work is created with human creativity. The essential piece is to clearly define what parts are AI generated vs human written. This is an obligation placed on you by the courts, and if you don't do it, it becomes very very hard to argue that you wrote that code.
> AI does not enjoy copyright protection. Pretending you created something written by AI is copyfraud.
Which court has made a ruling on this? The only decision I'm aware of was that some Gen-AI artwork couldn't be copyrightable if it was made without substantial input, direction, and scrutiny.
You did not write it, the AI did. Either the work cannot be copyright, or the AI owner (Anthropic) owns the code. Not you. In no case can you own code you didn't write. You guys keep arguing that it enjoys copyright protection without realizing this part. There is no "work-for-hire" default in the law for AI even if it did enjoy copyright. You don't own it. And I am pointing out neither should Anthropic.
That's an opinion from the US copyright office, not a law or a decision made in court. I think it remains to be seen to what extent using generative AI affects the practical application of copyright in larger projects: the office holds that the human-contributed parts still qualify for copyright, and I think there are a variety of possible interpretations and arguments that could effectively allow a largely AI-generated codebase to still be protected by copyright, even if technically big sections of it are not (in a similar manner as e.g. maps are protected, even if the underlying facts are not).
(I would also argue whether it matters in practice the other way: if something was AI generated, it is in principle cheap for someone else to generate it separately anyway: if you're wanting to copy AI generated code then there's probably some part of the ideas in it that are valuable beyond what the AI can output on its own)
Yes, that's exactly what they were talking about. It says right in that page that sufficient changes can allow them to copyright the work, and it also says that their decision can be challenged.
And once again, you guys make this claim without reading the law.
>several provisions of the Copyright Act imply that it uses the word "author" only to refer to human beings, including provisions (1) vesting copyright ownership "initially in the author"; (2) limiting copyright duration to 70 years after "the author's death"; (3) providing for inheritance of certain rights by the author's "widow or widower" or "surviving children or grandchildren"; (4) requiring a signature to transfer copyright ownership; (5) extending protection to unpublished works regardless of the author's "nationality or domicile"; and (6) defining a "joint work" based on the authors' "intention" to merge their contributions in a certain way.
The law clearly, definitively, is talking about human authorship and nothing else. You are basing this concept that you can copyright AI written code on a law change that has not happened. It is very very unlikely that a law change can/will ever happen, because copyright law in particular is enshrined in international treaties like the 140 year old Berne Convention. This is a major reason why I was very much opposed to the TPP. Every new international copyright treaty is just more cement, making it completely unchangable. If you want to change this law, it will require half the countries in the world to do it.
To be clear, the Copyright Office is providing guidance and a particular (respected) interpretation of the law. Their opinions do influence courts, but they do not constitute law themselves.
There is of course, transformative use, and the slew of software packages we used to depend on without acknowledging the original maintainers on every commit.
I don't disagree with you on this. However, it is clear to me that a lot of copyfraud is happening in this industry right now. Just look at all the github repos with a) a licnese.txt and b) a claude.md in the repo.
Interesting. Can you elaborate on why you feel strongly about this? It's easily removable--I don't think your characterization that it "forces" attribution is correct, it just defaults it.
Indeed, the disclaiming of it being human-coded isn't the problem with their commit messages, them using it as a growth hack mechanism is. BTW to say it's attributed to Claude, I don't give that much importance, but I think it's useful to other coders to know what model was used. A simple assisted by AI would mostly handle the plaigiarism problem, because Claude's training data didn't come from Claude.
I may be missing something, but this is exactly what I want as a default. I want the session links there. I see PRs from my coworkers with session links.
I still get to control whether other people can see the session, but I don’t lose it.
I don’t get the “unprofessional” argument. This is attribution. Attribution is professional. If you don’t want it, you turn it off or rewrite the commit messages. If you are having Claude write the commit messages FOR YOU and you are NOT READING THEM then that’s what’s unprofessional. I am honestly kind of shocked and disappointed by how upset people are by this.
From my point of view; I share Debian's perspective:
https://lwn.net/Articles/1091231/
Which is actually why I DON'T like the session amended. Ultimately it is an ad placed into the Git log, and noise at that. Regardless of if it exists or not, the professional responsibility for what is contained in that PR/commit falls to the feet of the developer contributing it.
Microsoft previously did this with Copilot, which was correctly met with a very negative response. I don't see why an ad by Anthropic is better than an ad from Microsoft.
I'm not sure i see it as an ad. "Sent from my iPhone" is an ad because the iPhone is not a meaningful part of sending the email. Claude is a meaningful part of the commit though if you're using it, so to me it's more like clarity or transparency than an advertisement.
You don't see how a link to "https://claude.ai/.." in the Git log is an ad for Cluade/Anthropic? It feels exactly like "Sent from an iPhone" to me, and has exactly the same value to people reviewing the Git log later (i.e. none).
Keep in mind that if you run across someone else's spam in the Git logs:
- You need a Claude account.
- You need permission to view the session.
The only people who can just follow that link and look at how Claude was used, is Anthropic themselves. Therefore, they can also use it as an additional mechanism to tie sessions back to other IDs/identities. For everyone else this is "Sent from an iPhone" but longer.
I agree. But I think I would also like the OS to put a fingerprint (I.e committed on macOSX in /usr/marc/… while he was watching porn on xxx). This way we can get the full context by default and better understand the PRs.
The way I see it, the conversation transcript is the important part. The specific link to claude.ai nor the model itself is important to me. Otherwise we'll all just be linking out to 10 different AI model providers websites to see history. I'd rather it be some open solution.
Models change so much that I don't really see why anybody cares what model was used to generate the code after the fact. It changes every few months and they're non-deterministic so its not like you'll ever "recreate" the same conversation yourself anyways.
It’s a default that changed silently during an automatic update.
Also I frequently use an LLM to commit work that I have written. It is just misleading in that case.
What's misleading? Wouldn't the session corroborate that it was only used for the commit?
How would it know for certain it was used for a given commit? What if there was no code? What if the approach was different, but some lines were the same?
I think some folks think that using an LLM is a shameful act and this is somehow shaming it and others believe that it ties back to the conversation. These conversations don't have any guarantee of being accessible over the long haul. If there was value in the conversation, the conversation should be somehow captured as well, not just some URLs.
Only to me, the person with access to the session. It implies LLM generated to anyone looking at the commit.
Only if you deliberately made the session available for others to view. And they view it before jumping to conclusions.
Realistically, what do you actually get from viewing people's sessions? I honestly don't really understand why people care.
The specific model used can't be important because theres a new trending one every couple weeks nowadays. The conversation could be wildly out there and have 10+ different iterations of the same thing in it that led to the final product, etc.
It's not like before AI we were asking people to explain every single iteration they went through in their commit body, or to see their entire internal dialogue.
I don't really understand people's hype around needing to see the conversation they had with their AI. As long as the code itself is self-documented and final decisions are relatively well-documented future agents and humans will pick up on it much faster than reading the entire transcripts anyways.
That's not even bringing into the fact that there are people who use multiple models, multiple sessions, multiple harnesses across the same commits/changesets. How do you reconcile those alongside people who could have made human changes in the end?
I agree that attribution is professional. What I would worry about is people using the link to supply the reasoning behind the change without putting it into the commit message. Then you have the problem of needing to load the session to understand the change, when one would ideally be able to get that context from source control alone.
> Attribution is professional.
It's also, like, kind of the point of using git, isn't it? So putting this in the commit message feels very appropriate to me.
I'm OK with the attribution, but I just didn't like a session URL appearing on a public repo all of a sudden. I was left wondering "did I just leak my private session?"
I don't understand why it isn't opt-in. Or at least a heads-up somewhere.
Provenance, provenance, provenance
One of those words that Claude taught me
Same. Over relied on and far less clear than alternatives 99% of the time. Claude is a shitty English writer that is only tolerated for it’s coding ability.
Nah, "provenance" is a good word to know. Plain English version would be, "what colour are your bits?".
Most comments I read were positive, what kind of negative sentiment were you picking up in these comments?
People are sick of Anthropic, and everyone, turning every little thing into a chance to manipulate reality in their favour.
Sure, but it does spook some people like me where I frequently mention context in session like: "it would be better to fix this on the backend, but that is a separate team that moves VERY slowly", etc. And I don't want that accidentally getting broadcast.
It is because many "developers" want to pretend that they have read the code and have understood it so they can claim it as their own.
Attribution is indeed professional. If you use an AI to write the code for you and have no idea why you accepted the decisions it made nor can you explain them to another human, that would be clear evidence of acute skill atrophy.
I don't see any issue with this at all. I noticed it the other day and thought it was convenient. The same way I let the agent tag the PRs/commits with its name. I want to know what was used, in fact I wish it would identify the model used.
I'm not embarrassed by my LLM usage and I want to provide a full audit trail whenever possible to aid myself in the future.
PS: Claude archives old conversations on your computer after 30days. I've started archiving mine to the side as well for potential future use.
It has strong "Sent from my iPhone" vibes.
I use many tools to develop software and if my IDE would silently start adding "This commit was created with IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate" I'd find it intrusive and obnoxious, too.
If IDEA recorded my manual edits as events and attached a transcript to my commits I don't think I'd mind. If they just tagged it to put their name in that's different.
Knowing which model created the code has more "weight" to it than the editor IMHO which is why I think this is different. Adding the session link is a nice touch.
In my last project I wrote most stuff by hand but also used various Anthropic models, Gemini something and GLM 5.2. By line count the #1 was probably the IDE autocomplete though mostly for boring field initializations and the likes. The "hardest" part was some reverse engineering by GLM that Claude refused but that resultend in zero lines directly. So, how to attribute this?
Allowing tools to insert themselves into the git history only makes sense if you are purely vibecoding with a single model and don't even bother to check and clean it up anymore. Is this truly the default state of software development already? How the times have changed.
A traditional IDE isn’t writing code for you.
code generator ide plugins have been around for a long long time
> Claude archives old conversations
Archives? Or deletes?
Deletes off your computer. I'm don't know what else they might be doing with it. They keep slimmed down summaries (on your comptuer) I believe but not the full context.
This is probably a controversial take, but I love this. Back in the early days of claude code I had to write a script (well, claude wrote it) to pull out the session id and append it to every commit. It's a lifesaver when you are trying to debug an old commit to pull up the chat session that actually wrote it.
It’s reasonable.
I think its the beginning of a larger trend where Anthropic makes its infeasible to use Claude without Claude getting credit. Not for ethical reasons, but business reasons. Fingerprinting supports this as well.
Im speculating. And these are little things that are reasonable by itself. They are ethical. But I dont think Anthropic wants Claude to ultimately be a tool that produces some output that just gets integrated into some human’s work product. IE they dont care much about authors utilizing Claude for writing their papers or books. They do care about Claude becoming the most prolific published author by orders of magnitude. And not being “plagiarized.”
It's like they're working overtime to increase churn
We dont know what the end game will be. They might sell products and services produced by claude, not sell claude.
Just because it's not in the title and most people won't be scrolling all the way down: its only enabled for web and Remote Control sessions, per a maintainer.
Thing is, if you enable remote control for one session, it becomes globally enabled for all (which I personally prefer as I want to access all my sessions from my phone).
Wouldn't think I'd be cheering Antrophic decision, but this is excellent.
They probably were thinking about how that serves them as an ad, not about transparency, but still.
I say they should go one step further and somehow make it harder/inconvenient to turn it off (big tech is good at this already, so...); or, maybe, hide that option behind extra feature under premium subscription or something.
P.S. The comments are pure gold. They don't like they can't fake authorship and have the audacity to be indignant!
I really like working using Claude Code, but Anthropic has a really bad tendency to push out new "features" like this as default-on, through auto-update. That, and their models trying to do everything through bash (including editing files) is enough that I'm seriously looking in to switching harness to pi.
Presumably quietly added default-on because everyone had turned attribution off.
Again, if you challenge it “It came from my harness instructions” and obviously telling it not to in memory is about as successful as… any other instruction in memory, about 60% of the time.
Attribution should be opt-in, but they already support it. Via CLAUDE.md where you can specify how exactly AI contribution should be documented. Relying on whatever convention your vendor will establish isn‘t a good idea. Vendors are replaced, project conventions stay, so it‘s better to state your expectations in writing, instead of assuming that someone guesses them right and maintains conformance forever.
Good way to find engineers who don’t know what they are doing and just fire them, from examining their sessions.
Instead of accepting the default “commit then push,” try “draft a commit message and let me review and revise it first.”
I like attribution in principle, but I'd rather it linked to an open format stored in/with the repository rather than their website.
Simple enough to script someth to do just that.
I like claude code, I use it quite a bit for things, and I don't mind the attribution (I do not plan to deceive people of me using AI or not for a change) and I think a link back to the session is valueable after the fact. At least for me, the session contains a lot of discussion, back and forth, changes from me and more. (Also, if the feature is not on by default, it probably might not exist.)
However, I think claude code needs better change management. It changes quite frequent and I think changes like these should be communicated better in software. (Like a card game may show card changes in game when a patch happened.) It may impact how I do things when creating the commit messages or PRs.
> That is a stupid and evil feature.
I can see arguments for "stupid", but "evil"?
Seems plausible that the feature was only added (quietly and by default) for marketing reasons
Issue was closed with an robot-ai comment... Patetic...
Beyond "branding", I don't mind this general direction.
There absolutely should be a fool proof undefeatable mechanism that identifies or watermarks code that was completely LLM generated.
If you use LLMs, own it.
"completely" LLM generated?
Hard boundaries there simply don't exist for most workflows, and I suspect if they did, it'd be at the expense of things ~nobody would want to give up.
The issue comments concerned about IP theft are deeply ironic.
I really hate this attribution nonsense ...
On one hand I guess it is fine to automatically tag that the commit was AI-generated. On the other hand, this will happen even if you audit every line and add your own changes too, which means the attribution is misleading.
Having only 1 of the token sellers do this is not very helpful either. Its just free branding & advertising for Misanthropic.
Also codex cloud and others.
I think it's a great feature if you want it, but the UI should ask if you want it enabled first.
For a good chunk of my AI coding work, I make my own commits. I add Assisited-by: to them. I glance at the AI commit messages, and though I usually come up with my own messages sometimes I paraphrase. This would just make it a bit more annoying to review the AI commit messages, though I could hide it.
Anthropic is right here. You need to clearly define what commits are AI authored or you are conspiring to commit copyfraud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyfraud
AI does not enjoy copyright protection. Pretending you created something written by AI is copyfraud.
Interesting. According to the definition in that Wikipedia link, "copyfraud" is claiming copyright on public domain content.
Does this mean a company can take code from an open source project that used AI, put it into their closed source code, potentially modify it, all without attribution?
Yes, that's exactly what it means. AI works are public domain by default. Copyright law requires the work is created with human creativity. The essential piece is to clearly define what parts are AI generated vs human written. This is an obligation placed on you by the courts, and if you don't do it, it becomes very very hard to argue that you wrote that code.
> AI does not enjoy copyright protection. Pretending you created something written by AI is copyfraud.
Which court has made a ruling on this? The only decision I'm aware of was that some Gen-AI artwork couldn't be copyrightable if it was made without substantial input, direction, and scrutiny.
Once again, I will point you to the law,
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB10922
You did not write it, the AI did. Either the work cannot be copyright, or the AI owner (Anthropic) owns the code. Not you. In no case can you own code you didn't write. You guys keep arguing that it enjoys copyright protection without realizing this part. There is no "work-for-hire" default in the law for AI even if it did enjoy copyright. You don't own it. And I am pointing out neither should Anthropic.
That's an opinion from the US copyright office, not a law or a decision made in court. I think it remains to be seen to what extent using generative AI affects the practical application of copyright in larger projects: the office holds that the human-contributed parts still qualify for copyright, and I think there are a variety of possible interpretations and arguments that could effectively allow a largely AI-generated codebase to still be protected by copyright, even if technically big sections of it are not (in a similar manner as e.g. maps are protected, even if the underlying facts are not).
(I would also argue whether it matters in practice the other way: if something was AI generated, it is in principle cheap for someone else to generate it separately anyway: if you're wanting to copy AI generated code then there's probably some part of the ideas in it that are valuable beyond what the AI can output on its own)
Yes, that's exactly what they were talking about. It says right in that page that sufficient changes can allow them to copyright the work, and it also says that their decision can be challenged.
And once again, you guys make this claim without reading the law.
>several provisions of the Copyright Act imply that it uses the word "author" only to refer to human beings, including provisions (1) vesting copyright ownership "initially in the author"; (2) limiting copyright duration to 70 years after "the author's death"; (3) providing for inheritance of certain rights by the author's "widow or widower" or "surviving children or grandchildren"; (4) requiring a signature to transfer copyright ownership; (5) extending protection to unpublished works regardless of the author's "nationality or domicile"; and (6) defining a "joint work" based on the authors' "intention" to merge their contributions in a certain way.
The law clearly, definitively, is talking about human authorship and nothing else. You are basing this concept that you can copyright AI written code on a law change that has not happened. It is very very unlikely that a law change can/will ever happen, because copyright law in particular is enshrined in international treaties like the 140 year old Berne Convention. This is a major reason why I was very much opposed to the TPP. Every new international copyright treaty is just more cement, making it completely unchangable. If you want to change this law, it will require half the countries in the world to do it.
To be clear, the Copyright Office is providing guidance and a particular (respected) interpretation of the law. Their opinions do influence courts, but they do not constitute law themselves.
There is of course, transformative use, and the slew of software packages we used to depend on without acknowledging the original maintainers on every commit.
That’s just your opinion on your own characterisation.
If anthropic believes in giving credit, why not give credit to all the content they stole?
I don't disagree with you on this. However, it is clear to me that a lot of copyfraud is happening in this industry right now. Just look at all the github repos with a) a licnese.txt and b) a claude.md in the repo.
Copyright shouldn't exist and AI (especially open weight models) is accelerationism to this point
Luckily I've cancelled my subscription.
I cancelled my subscription over this [1].
1: https://x.com/m_herrmann/status/2092579839676948495
Interesting. Can you elaborate on why you feel strongly about this? It's easily removable--I don't think your characterization that it "forces" attribution is correct, it just defaults it.
Indeed, the disclaiming of it being human-coded isn't the problem with their commit messages, them using it as a growth hack mechanism is. BTW to say it's attributed to Claude, I don't give that much importance, but I think it's useful to other coders to know what model was used. A simple assisted by AI would mostly handle the plaigiarism problem, because Claude's training data didn't come from Claude.
who cares?
Some people who are in this thread might be interested in that view. A little more context would have helped it though I agree.