for those who skip to the comments: Qwen released an updated checkpoint of this model today (0902) with significantly higher benchmark results that appear to place it much closer to Fable/Sol
Everyone talks about how these models are getting closer and closer to OpenAI/Anthropic and how they're much cheaper at API pricing, which is great.
But then I compare it to my $200/month subscription - which I believe is how most developers are actually using these - and it actually looks way more expensive from my quick calculations.
Has anyone else calculated it? Is there any way to get Kimi K3 or Qwen 3.8 Max at a similar cost to what we're all paying by subscription for Claude or Codex?
If not, I'd push back and say these Chinese models are actually more expensive, for most developers.
These subscriptions look far more limited and possibly also more expensive than the equivalent Claude/Codex ones at similar prices.
for those who skip to the comments: Qwen released an updated checkpoint of this model today (0902) with significantly higher benchmark results that appear to place it much closer to Fable/Sol
Everyone talks about how these models are getting closer and closer to OpenAI/Anthropic and how they're much cheaper at API pricing, which is great.
But then I compare it to my $200/month subscription - which I believe is how most developers are actually using these - and it actually looks way more expensive from my quick calculations.
Has anyone else calculated it? Is there any way to get Kimi K3 or Qwen 3.8 Max at a similar cost to what we're all paying by subscription for Claude or Codex?
If not, I'd push back and say these Chinese models are actually more expensive, for most developers.
These subscriptions look far more limited and possibly also more expensive than the equivalent Claude/Codex ones at similar prices.
https://www.kimi.ai/resources/kimi-k3-pricing
https://www.alibabacloud.com/en/campaign/ai-landing-page-tok...
Announcement / benchmarks:
https://x.com/Alibaba_Qwen/status/2094968708288680276