This is extremely old. I am aware that the Tor project tries to keeps their defaults sane for any use, but someone has checked that the configuration here is still valid for this use?
Also, running tor as a root is bad idea, I don't think the client allows you to anymore (or at least warns you)
> This is extremely old. I am aware that the Tor project tries to keeps their defaults sane for any use, but someone has checked that the configuration here is still valid for this use?
Article was published in 2015. Seems 14.04 was the LTS, as the time of writing.
I note that Linode will still let you run exit nodes on their infra (though they may ask you to respond to specific complaints to reduce the exit policy).
I ran an exit node about 15y ago on a free IP. After a few weeks, I found malware files (not deployed) on the desktop. They reappeared after deletion a few times. I concluded the experiment and wiped the system.
Some time later I tried running a middle relay (VM non-persistent live distro) but Dan List (then) didn't differentiate between between exit and other node types and my public IP kept getting blacklisted. I eventually gave up.
There are still blacklists that don't differentiate. They'll even list it as "verified malicious activity originating from the host", and security products that gather all IP blacklist services and take them at face value will block your IP.
So let me ask this: How hard is it to create a temporary exit node that is basically a rasberry pi with a sim card or wifi connection say from a cafe, or any other public wifi, ans are online for say na hour or two? If we had enough of these scattered around, would it matter?
> So let me ask this: How hard is it to create a temporary exit node that is basically a rasberry pi with a sim card or wifi connection say from a cafe, or any other public wifi, ans are online for say na hour or two?
It's not hard at all.
> If we had enough of these scattered around, would it matter?
No. Your relays won't be trusted with significant amounts of traffic until they've been up for a few weeks.
The last time I looked into it, exit nodes have a long “ramp up” period of many days. If this is still true, you’re not going to be serving much purpose with a collection of transient nodes.
in the us, entirely legal. you may get law enforcement knocking on your door with questions, from time to time.
best to do it as part of a non profit or other organization, and being open about running a node, so that law enforcement/etc knows what they're dealing with
> you may get law enforcement knocking on your door with questions
If you host an exit node on your home internet connection, the daily thing you will struggle with is not law enforcement, but rather the fact that your public IP will be blocked by most big websites to the point that simply browsing the web will become a pain.
Then whoever did this experiment will likely shut down the node and reset their router to pull a new IP, which could be reassigned in short order, thereby causing trouble for an innocent neighbor.
Wow....
> I’ll go with Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty)
This is extremely old. I am aware that the Tor project tries to keeps their defaults sane for any use, but someone has checked that the configuration here is still valid for this use?
Also, running tor as a root is bad idea, I don't think the client allows you to anymore (or at least warns you)
> This is extremely old. I am aware that the Tor project tries to keeps their defaults sane for any use, but someone has checked that the configuration here is still valid for this use?
Article was published in 2015. Seems 14.04 was the LTS, as the time of writing.
I note that Linode will still let you run exit nodes on their infra (though they may ask you to respond to specific complaints to reduce the exit policy).
I got in huge trouble hosting one of these when I was a kid.
I saw some call-to-arms post that got me excited for the free internet and set it up on my parents' residential service.
You can imagine the fallout. No permanent damage though.
I ran an exit node about 15y ago on a free IP. After a few weeks, I found malware files (not deployed) on the desktop. They reappeared after deletion a few times. I concluded the experiment and wiped the system.
Some time later I tried running a middle relay (VM non-persistent live distro) but Dan List (then) didn't differentiate between between exit and other node types and my public IP kept getting blacklisted. I eventually gave up.
There are still blacklists that don't differentiate. They'll even list it as "verified malicious activity originating from the host", and security products that gather all IP blacklist services and take them at face value will block your IP.
So let me ask this: How hard is it to create a temporary exit node that is basically a rasberry pi with a sim card or wifi connection say from a cafe, or any other public wifi, ans are online for say na hour or two? If we had enough of these scattered around, would it matter?
> So let me ask this: How hard is it to create a temporary exit node that is basically a rasberry pi with a sim card or wifi connection say from a cafe, or any other public wifi, ans are online for say na hour or two?
It's not hard at all.
> If we had enough of these scattered around, would it matter?
No. Your relays won't be trusted with significant amounts of traffic until they've been up for a few weeks.
The last time I looked into it, exit nodes have a long “ramp up” period of many days. If this is still true, you’re not going to be serving much purpose with a collection of transient nodes.
How is that trust anchored? To public IPs or to public keys?
I wonder, according to law, what are the outcomes of maintaining an exit node, apart from having, I quote, _balls of steel_
depends on the jurisdiction
in the us, entirely legal. you may get law enforcement knocking on your door with questions, from time to time.
best to do it as part of a non profit or other organization, and being open about running a node, so that law enforcement/etc knows what they're dealing with
> you may get law enforcement knocking on your door with questions
If you host an exit node on your home internet connection, the daily thing you will struggle with is not law enforcement, but rather the fact that your public IP will be blocked by most big websites to the point that simply browsing the web will become a pain.
Then whoever did this experiment will likely shut down the node and reset their router to pull a new IP, which could be reassigned in short order, thereby causing trouble for an innocent neighbor.
Use a VPN on your router to avoid this issue.
best not, lads
>harrased by ISP
Or the FBI setting you up and jail you for 3 years
https://rockenhaus.com/
Not to fear monger, in fact, the more people run exit node the harder it will be to go after individuals.