Seems they might be selling a combo of dual RTX Pro 6000 workstation cards (non-refundable), but the setup they have, unless they change how the GPUs cooling work, isn't gonna work out thermally if you stack two of those workstation cards on top of each other. But it doesn't say WS or "Workstation", so I suppose could be the server variant too? But also doesn't say...
Hope they have good overall cooling the case, cooling doesn't seem to be mentioned, it'll be a noisy little machine no doubt :)
I remember losing sleep when I bought my RTX Pro 6000, but somehow they keep going up in price, and waddya know I’ve even done real work that appreciates the VRAM size.
Haha, bloody hell, mate. $17k a pop? I bought these for $8k-ish. That's bonkers to buy this when newer flash models won't fit on this any more. DeepSeek V4 Flash seems the last in its line, and then you have to count on Qwen Next. Seems like a waste honestly.
I wonder why Apple has not really pushed their memory bandwidth numbers. They're starting to catch up to 2020 at this point -- cool, but still struggling to run years-old models. (FLOPS is even further behind by a year or two)
Maybe they're waiting on HBM? Given that they're skipping M6 Max to go straight for M7, I'd assume they're doing a redesign for it.
GDDR has higher latency and much lower capacity. HBM requires an interposer and also has lower capacity. It's not an easy choice. The M7 family will probably double memory bandwidth using LPDDR6.
If your goal is pure GPU compute, you should have got a 5090. It can bench comparable to the RTX 6000 Pro cards and is near guaranteed to outperform M5 Ultra.
I thought it was a pricing mistake. But no, you just have to select the variations. $42,412.00
I had to do a double take myself, scrolled down and arrived at a similar number.
Wish I built this a few years ago!
Me three
Seems they might be selling a combo of dual RTX Pro 6000 workstation cards (non-refundable), but the setup they have, unless they change how the GPUs cooling work, isn't gonna work out thermally if you stack two of those workstation cards on top of each other. But it doesn't say WS or "Workstation", so I suppose could be the server variant too? But also doesn't say...
Hope they have good overall cooling the case, cooling doesn't seem to be mentioned, it'll be a noisy little machine no doubt :)
They're [Max-Q] blower cards and there's a big gap between them so the cooling looks fine.
So the two variants they offer is the Max-Q and the Server edition one, but only explicitly mentioned for one?
Edit: The Max-Q is one of the options, what's the other option then?
Page mentions liquid cooling, for what it's worth.
It only costs $40,000.
the landing page showed "$3,299.00" and I had my candy store moment for a few secs.
5 years ago I could not afford top shelf coders. Now I cannot afford top shelf machines.
This makes Mac Studio with 256GB memory look cheap in comparison. More memory to store weight at a quarter of the price!
It's gonna have WAY faster token rates than that Mac Studio though, enough to be a qualitative rather than quantitative difference.
Can't it be both?
EG As I gazed at Janice, joy with equal part contentment washed through my soul.
I remember losing sleep when I bought my RTX Pro 6000, but somehow they keep going up in price, and waddya know I’ve even done real work that appreciates the VRAM size.
New car or a Thelio. Tough decision.
I bought a spark instead of a motorcycle so it’s somewhat relative and it’s also somewhat relative.
What motherboard do they use? (Or do they design their own now?)
The ASUS logo is visible in the photo of the innards.
I'm guessing it'll depend on the GPU (and CPU) choice, putting the cheapest that is sufficient for the choice.
Haha, bloody hell, mate. $17k a pop? I bought these for $8k-ish. That's bonkers to buy this when newer flash models won't fit on this any more. DeepSeek V4 Flash seems the last in its line, and then you have to count on Qwen Next. Seems like a waste honestly.
Is it more powerful than Apple silicon, or why would anyone buy this? Just for Linux?
Oh, it's System76, that's why. Open hardware. Makes sense.
Edit: Also Nvidia
It is more powerful than Apple.
I wonder why Apple has not really pushed their memory bandwidth numbers. They're starting to catch up to 2020 at this point -- cool, but still struggling to run years-old models. (FLOPS is even further behind by a year or two)
Maybe they're waiting on HBM? Given that they're skipping M6 Max to go straight for M7, I'd assume they're doing a redesign for it.
GDDR has higher latency and much lower capacity. HBM requires an interposer and also has lower capacity. It's not an easy choice. The M7 family will probably double memory bandwidth using LPDDR6.
wouldnt you be better off maxing out the new Mac hardware? the memory bandwidth is insane on those jobbies
Two RTX 6000 have more FLOPS and more memory bandwidth than a M5 Ultra (but they also cost more).
If your goal is pure GPU compute, you should have got a 5090. It can bench comparable to the RTX 6000 Pro cards and is near guaranteed to outperform M5 Ultra.