Been there with a 33M cost estimate [1]. If the requester is reading this -- hold them to it and request a much smaller but still significant amount of records. Use that as the foundation for "how much time it actually takes". Another option is to get clever with helping them with means and modes of review/redaction. This is how I got the email metadata for 6M emails from Houston for example.
FOIA requests that have to be redacted are labor intensive.
However, flock shouldn’t need to be redacted right? They’re just public webcams. Lots of those already exist and many stream live.
The police still have to redact all the times the cops accessed the camera feeds to stalk women, creep on children, and spy on people they don't like, plus remove any instances of the police (both on and off the clock) committing crimes that just happened to get caught by these cameras. Of course it's going to take "14 years of labor" to edit that stuff out.
All digital government records should already be freely distributed. This is basically the same thing as poll extortion tax. You want to use your rights? Then pay up! Oh you didn't go away yet? Pay up even more!
It still will often be expensive, because governments have a lot of personal data about citizens that interact (often involuntarily) with those governments.
Unless you think those citizens should lose their privacy rights the records concerning them need to be redacted before distribution.
> governments have a lot of personal data about citizens that interact (often involuntarily) with those governments.
If it's recorded on a Flock camera it happened in public where there's zero expectation of privacy. If the police in Texas are being so careless about people's actually private data that it's showing up in Flock camera feeds the public should absolutely be able to see the evidence of that so that something can be done to stop it.
Been there with a 33M cost estimate [1]. If the requester is reading this -- hold them to it and request a much smaller but still significant amount of records. Use that as the foundation for "how much time it actually takes". Another option is to get clever with helping them with means and modes of review/redaction. This is how I got the email metadata for 6M emails from Houston for example.
Another example from Vermont's governor's office: https://www.muckrock.com/foi/vermont-80/email-metadata-55744...
Happy to help more but I'll probably be unavailable tonight.
[1] https://mchap.io/that-time-the-city-of-seattle-accidentally-...
[1] was a lot crazier than I was expecting and I read the whole thing. I’m glad you didn’t have to face any serious repercussions.
Great work, keep at it!
FOIA requests that have to be redacted are labor intensive. However, flock shouldn’t need to be redacted right? They’re just public webcams. Lots of those already exist and many stream live.
The police still have to redact all the times the cops accessed the camera feeds to stalk women, creep on children, and spy on people they don't like, plus remove any instances of the police (both on and off the clock) committing crimes that just happened to get caught by these cameras. Of course it's going to take "14 years of labor" to edit that stuff out.
If the data is so difficult to get, that it's unreasonable to get, just get rid of flock then. You're already not getting any benefit.
Unless... no, that couldn't have been a lie, could it? The government would never try to overcharge anyone, right?
All digital government records should already be freely distributed. This is basically the same thing as poll extortion tax. You want to use your rights? Then pay up! Oh you didn't go away yet? Pay up even more!
It still will often be expensive, because governments have a lot of personal data about citizens that interact (often involuntarily) with those governments.
Unless you think those citizens should lose their privacy rights the records concerning them need to be redacted before distribution.
> governments have a lot of personal data about citizens that interact (often involuntarily) with those governments.
If it's recorded on a Flock camera it happened in public where there's zero expectation of privacy. If the police in Texas are being so careless about people's actually private data that it's showing up in Flock camera feeds the public should absolutely be able to see the evidence of that so that something can be done to stop it.