Some of my friends insist on watching movies only in 4K, but once I secrectly played a proper 1080p BluRay copy and they would not believe it was 1080p.
Not much to do with the OP other than that it's been a long time since even the "tech-savy" have watched anything on disc. I guess 95% or more live with whatever potato bitrate they get from streaming services.
If Blu-ray is diseapearing, what's left for people who care about media quality? Last time I checked, the quality on legal streaming platform was barely comparable with Blu-ray. Did this improve?
I feel like we need an open source DVD and CD so that they will survive for the long term. Streaming is nice but I don't want to pay monthly fees forever just to hear the music I like.
FWIW me reading the headline alone was enough to help justify a NAS purchase with my not-as-tech-inclined wife so we can just start dumping things there one way or another...
PS3 is a great Blu-ray player IMO. Solid console, solid controller, good laser implementation. Just pop it in and it Just Works.
Seeing a native Blu-ray (god I hate typing that out) on my then 1080p Panny Plasma was a sight to behold. The quality was fantastic, incredible detail and color in a dark room. I miss the console, the television, and the couch I sat on. All of that is gone. But I still remember the glory of seeing it for the first time.
Vinyl is far from open source CD due to limitations of phisical format and the fact that good vinyl contains specifically mastered for vinyl with those limitations taken into account.
You can still easily buy Bluray player and open source your discs with ARM (not CPU/SoCs, different one)
Like all analog formats, vinyl has a non-linear response. Things like total amplitude and frequency content affect noise and distortion when reproduced. Another factor is that it's a constant angular velocity medium, so the response is different at the beginning than the end. These are factors that a good mastering engineer takes into account.
This occurs in the digital world as well. When we went to DVDs, the studios had encoders/authoring engineers, who tweaked compression parameters per scene, as compression is another non-linear process. For example, they might apply a small amount of blur on a dark scene where film grain trips up the compression.
Eta: Apple provides the exact pipeline [1] they use for their services so the sound engineer can listen to the output and adjust.
Pretty wild that even the PS5 still has a blu-ray player and that PS5 games still come on optical discs. No doubt this adds significantly to the costs of both the PS5 hardware and to the costs of game distribution.
I have a feeling the PS6 won’t have an optical drive…
Sony has already announced the end of physical games for the PS5. If the PS6 will have an optical drive, it'll be an add-on and only for backwards compatibility purposes. Any kind of a PS6 optical drive will definitely not add significantly to its retail price though.
Regulars to 4k forums know that nearly all the 4k players on the market suck, with regular lock-ups. I have a high end sony 4k player , and it crashes with double-layer disks.
4k blu ray player development hasn't had any innovation for 7+ years. The new products are mostly recycling the chips & firmware from years ago. Still java-based and buggy
I have a modern 4k dedicated player and I enjoy the experience once I got audio and video properly configured (which was a surprising pita).
You put in the disc, it plays, if you want subtitles you press the subtitles button, that’s it. I never had it hang or anything like that, and there is no bullshit internet connectivity/ads etc.
The only thing I’d like improved is better streaming/playing local files.
I never encountered any hangs, slowdowns or any other problem really.
Now it's buy continuously through a subscription, watch for as long as the deal remains in place to provide that particular movie on that particular platform, and thrill to having your individual viewing habits tracked, catalogued, and monetized.
Some of my friends insist on watching movies only in 4K, but once I secrectly played a proper 1080p BluRay copy and they would not believe it was 1080p.
Not much to do with the OP other than that it's been a long time since even the "tech-savy" have watched anything on disc. I guess 95% or more live with whatever potato bitrate they get from streaming services.
If Blu-ray is diseapearing, what's left for people who care about media quality? Last time I checked, the quality on legal streaming platform was barely comparable with Blu-ray. Did this improve?
Kaleidescape has the same or better quality than Blu-ray. It's DRMed and probably won't continue to work if the company goes out of business though.
As long as they keep making the disks, they'll keep making their way onto my jellyfin instance via a series of tubes.
Discussion (41 points,22 hours ago, 14 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50201821
Strange media sources though:
FlatPanelsHD (5 points, 1 comment) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50199610
DarkHorizons (3 points) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50199874
PushSquare (41 points, 14 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50201821
I feel like we need an open source DVD and CD so that they will survive for the long term. Streaming is nice but I don't want to pay monthly fees forever just to hear the music I like.
FWIW me reading the headline alone was enough to help justify a NAS purchase with my not-as-tech-inclined wife so we can just start dumping things there one way or another...
You mean, a jailbroken ps3? :)
if yours even works. i went through four or five with varying issues. yellow light of death, blinking red light
PS3 is a great Blu-ray player IMO. Solid console, solid controller, good laser implementation. Just pop it in and it Just Works.
Seeing a native Blu-ray (god I hate typing that out) on my then 1080p Panny Plasma was a sight to behold. The quality was fantastic, incredible detail and color in a dark room. I miss the console, the television, and the couch I sat on. All of that is gone. But I still remember the glory of seeing it for the first time.
I think at this point it’s called vinyl.
Vinyl is far from open source CD due to limitations of phisical format and the fact that good vinyl contains specifically mastered for vinyl with those limitations taken into account.
You can still easily buy Bluray player and open source your discs with ARM (not CPU/SoCs, different one)
If you're referring to the RIAA equalization curve[1] that is completely open and well defined.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization
Like all analog formats, vinyl has a non-linear response. Things like total amplitude and frequency content affect noise and distortion when reproduced. Another factor is that it's a constant angular velocity medium, so the response is different at the beginning than the end. These are factors that a good mastering engineer takes into account.
This occurs in the digital world as well. When we went to DVDs, the studios had encoders/authoring engineers, who tweaked compression parameters per scene, as compression is another non-linear process. For example, they might apply a small amount of blur on a dark scene where film grain trips up the compression.
Eta: Apple provides the exact pipeline [1] they use for their services so the sound engineer can listen to the output and adjust.
[1] https://www.apple.com/apple-music/apple-digital-masters/
I really hope not, there isn't a single redeeming quality to vinyls from any practical point of view.
The big album art?
I'll give it that, though the size in general is a downside for more people than it is a benefit.
to play a record, i don't need a computer or any electronics created after, say, 1960 or so. that's a nice benefit :)
Pretty wild that even the PS5 still has a blu-ray player and that PS5 games still come on optical discs. No doubt this adds significantly to the costs of both the PS5 hardware and to the costs of game distribution.
I have a feeling the PS6 won’t have an optical drive…
Don't need to guess, they literally told us there will be no more physical media, ever.
The PS5 optical drive is still incapable of handling Dolby Vision, which is a massive shame.
I think it's just that Sony doesn't want to pay to license Dolby Vision, not any actual technical reason.
Sony has already announced the end of physical games for the PS5. If the PS6 will have an optical drive, it'll be an add-on and only for backwards compatibility purposes. Any kind of a PS6 optical drive will definitely not add significantly to its retail price though.
and the disks are only used for entitlements, not for the game. when you stick the disk in, the game is downloaded.
Agent of the future will reverse engineer blue rays for you , bingo , order laser , home robot will assemble and read the device .
Regulars to 4k forums know that nearly all the 4k players on the market suck, with regular lock-ups. I have a high end sony 4k player , and it crashes with double-layer disks.
4k blu ray player development hasn't had any innovation for 7+ years. The new products are mostly recycling the chips & firmware from years ago. Still java-based and buggy
I have a modern 4k dedicated player and I enjoy the experience once I got audio and video properly configured (which was a surprising pita).
You put in the disc, it plays, if you want subtitles you press the subtitles button, that’s it. I never had it hang or anything like that, and there is no bullshit internet connectivity/ads etc.
The only thing I’d like improved is better streaming/playing local files.
I never encountered any hangs, slowdowns or any other problem really.
So much for the "buy once, watch many" model.
Now it's buy continuously through a subscription, watch for as long as the deal remains in place to provide that particular movie on that particular platform, and thrill to having your individual viewing habits tracked, catalogued, and monetized.
Unfortunately, people are going to get the future they deserve.
Hard to find a good cassette player nowadays too.
Did you have any particularly good cassette players?