I feel incredibly productive. I'm building in an afternoon what would've taken weeks. I spend all my time in either MR's reviewing code, or a terminal prompting.
I've moved from being a coder, to being a product-engineer-architect. I love coding -- LOVE it. But the role has morphed. And, I actually really like the new role. I love being product centric, and caring about architecture -- it suits me wel..
The code Claude produces is often clean, but terribly archictected. So I'm spending a lot of time reviewing in detail.
But the anxienty - OMG the anxiety.
I work on multple features (generally 4-5 work streams) concurrently, so am constantly context switching. I worry about how much time I'm spending on each task. Am I doing enough code review? Too much? Too little?
What about click-through testing? Our test coverage has never been higher - should I be able to just merge these features? Wasn't that always the promise of TDD - merging with confidence? But, it feels like a risk.
And, I'm moving really really fast - but I assume my competitors are too. So that drives me to move faster. Automate more. Use claude in more places. Which brings more anxiety - am I cutting too many corners? Is this all gonna crumble on me?
Also, is everything I'm working on going to become irrelevant? Will customers buy this product, or vibe code it? Do we even have a moat? Anxiety. More anxiety.
My investors are reading stuff constantly too. They're pinging me with market updates, emerging players, shifting landscapes. More anxiety. Also - productivity tools - look - internet influencer X is now producing a gajillion lines of code a second -- are we doing that? Are we token maxing? Are we feature maxing?
Are we building the right number of internal tools? Are we automating enough? Should I evaluate the market for this new tool, or just smash something out with claude? More features. Burn more tokens. Ship ship ship.
Having to explain to investors why we're not going as fast as those guys, and building enterprise products requires care and dedication -- that takes time. Time I should be shipping, coding, featuring, tokenizing. More anxiety.
I'm exhausted.
Anyway, gotta go - herdr has pinged me four times during writing this reply. Gotta ship.
I spend about 90% of at-computer time in a herdr-like tool.
It feels like playing factorio: whatever is manual needs to be automated away.
LLM writes the test. The test is crap. Update the skill. Ask an LLM to review your feedback on the last 5 PRs and write a skill for a review bot to look for similar problems and post. Now you only see PRs after they've gone through a few rounds of review.
The LLM has stopped picking up new issues. Ask an LLM to diagnose why. Ask an LLM to write a cron to regularly check if the LLM PR pipeline has halted and ping you. Get an LLM to try to diagnose it first.
I'm using a lot of LLMs! Ask an LLM to diagnose why. Write a tool to audit your usage, and produce a weekly report. Have it raise issue to reduce spending.
And like a base building game there are many competing facets, coming all at once.
- spending more time upfront working with agent on intent of the change, then design, so agent does not try to work around issues in a way that I don't intend to
- investing in ways in which agent can verify it's own change
- giving access to as much prod telemetry, etc so it can also verify the change post-merge
- obvious stuff, like automated review loops etc
But in the end I still read the "load bearing" parts of the code. Less closely, and I've long ago stopped looking at the tests. It's better for me than couple of months ago.
I just had an interview and they asked me prepare for coding live. I had to manually code bubble sort before the interview. It felt really nice, but it ended up them showing me some code and review it instead :facepalm:
It’s the exact opposite for me. I don’t get tired at all from using AI. I am one of the people who enjoy building and not necessarily coding. A part of me is sad that I don’t write code anymore, I did have a thought yesterday when reviewing a PR, but working is fun for me again.
What was making me tired was all the doom and gloom online. I stopped consuming certain news and stopped going on Reddit entirely and my outlook is noticeably better.
I haven’t cut out sad news entirely but I don’t read speculative opinions about things that don’t actually affect me.
In terms of the overload I find that the clearly defined problems have much more obvious solutions. Identify your pain points and use AI to build you a tool or reusable prompt to make your life easier. It’s a constant refinement process to figure out what helps you.
For example, I was having a hard time managing multiple sessions so I had it build a window manager with notifications and color coding based on session hooks and git issue/PR status. I’m comfortably up to 8-12 sessions working in different worktrees.
I am surprised of how many people here are claiming they review the results of multiple agents working on different prs at the same time constantly context switching between them.
I just focus on one, I use on purpose very short interactions because I want to check every single function directly and not a whole 300lines file or 2000lines pr just at the end. Probably I am going slower than most of you but I feel I retain the knowledge of my codebase almost as good as when I was the one writing the code directly, and my PRs get very few review comments
What get me tired the most is when people submit to me a pr to review and I see immediately they full vibe coded it and just delegate to me the actual hard work of correcting the nonsense written in it with a single prompt without interactions. The worst is when you ask someone why they implemented something that way and they answer with "well calude made it, I really didn't think about it, now that I read it it makes no sense indeed"
I'm similar. I work in a context where I am responsible for the code that is in production and need to know how it works and vouch for its correctness.
Even with short interactions though, the effort in reviewing adds up and I ended up building a tool to help with it: https://github.com/imron/crt
I can review in the tool, and it remembers which files I have seen/approved since a given commit, then I can leave comments against source code and have an agent pick up those comments over mcp so it has context when making corrections.
I’ve been assigning the copilot review thing on all of these PRs, but I’ve noticed lately it’s started writing really difficult to verify review comments. It would take you literally all day to understand and test the things it’s commenting to check if they actually are issues, so as a result we all just ignore whatever the copilot review says and no one does any review.
We have removed it now, but when we used it we tweaked it to tell us only what it thoughts were major issues and ignore the rest because we had the same exact problem. Most comments were garbage
The whole situation is suboptimal because the manager uses Claude to generate tickets, the developers copy and paste the whole thing in to Claude and then post a PR they didn’t understand a thing about, and then it gets to me and I just don’t have time to review 4000 lines of code. So it ships having not had a single person understand what it does or was even for.
Enforcing boundaries and saying no have gotten more important than ever, now that violation of either is automated at superhuman speeds.
FWIW, there might be a silver lining in this. A lot of dysfunction in the current state of tech can (IMO) be traced back to violation of boundaries.
This might lead to a cultural shift. Though, that might also just be wishful thinking on my part.
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> I would love to hear your tips, but still be relevant in this AI era, so my boss does not fire me.
If your boss fires you because you didn't multiply your performance by doing more work in the same time (without your compensation changing), that's not your fault but simply your employer trying to squeeze you harder and that not working out.
Always keep that in mind in these discussions.
Which isn't to say that you should not improve efficiency and all, but it needs to be organic. If something inorganic is asked, then the (moral) failure is on the asker and not the askee.
I am vey tired. I maintain Pinggy - my first bootstrapped startup and building Lumirank , my next one. But every day is a struggle of coping up with what is new and what 20 more competitors that corpped up yesterday are up to. Millions of lines of codes being written every day, I can not merge without knowing the overall architecture and flow. But I can't rest. Everyone is running.
Sometimes I feel please someone give me a job where I can work 12 hours a day - but the rest of the 12 hours I don't need to think about what will happen tomorrow.. It will still be less stressful.
When we get good at something, it results in flow state, but it also means that was mechanizable in a way and now AI is taking that away. So we are always grappling with the new and effortful. And the context switching, jeez. We need entirely new visualizations of work flow that recognizes we are now doing more, and in parallel. Wonder if this is how air traffic control people feel.
My entire life, I have found meaning in solving problems with code. With AI, this is no longer competitive. Now I develop more than ever and am more productive than ever, but it still doesn't feel as rewarding. I would like to go back.
I tell it I am a chimp with a 3 inch brain so complexity beyond chimp scale is forbidden unless requested. And to apply theory of bounded rationality during all chimp interactions. Takes care of me like a spl circus animal.
I ask it for a quick complexity thermometer reading when ever the rabbit hole is looking like it might explode.
Also walking away from it every few hours and doing random simple mindless stuff has helped. Like I will go inspect my fish and plants. Try to have a chat with the cat, get others around to do a little dance etc etc.
I have a priest in the family who has to deal with lot of heavy duty stuff/people's problems. They train them not to get totally sucked in and loose themselves. He calls it grounding. Just simple mundane things to focus shift out of anything heavy.
I went through a period of feeling very tired. For me two things helped:
1. Being okay with being "less" productive. I'm probably still 10x more productive than I was in the pre-AI era, but in the early days of AI I would have eight Claude sessions running. Now it's two or three and I take more advantage of the free time I have between Claude assignments. My bosses are still happy with my output and I'm not being burnt out.
2. Very personal, but building my own tooling really helped. I built https://smalldocs.org / https://github.com/espressoplease/smalldocs (a document creator for AI agents) which allows me to take a lot of work outside of a chat history. E.g. I might make 10 MRs and then say "smalldoc me a list of the MRs" and I have that in my library, or if I'm considering various architectures I'll ask "smalldoc me a simple overview of the three architectures with mermaid diagrams" and then I can review the agent's thinking in a cleaner way.
AI-generated code works great for me, most of the time.
I'm productive, I ship, I can show stakeholders stuff in no time and and they are mostly happy.
But the development sucks.
I don't even really look at the code anymore, because reading generated code is a drag. And there is no reason really to do it.
There is no fulfillment of "I solved this real problem using some intricate logic that came out of my mind". I just throw tokens at it, and it works, great.
I don't really talk to coworkers anymore about the code. We don't do coding sessions together, or bang our heads together over some hard problem, because there are no hard problems. We don't learn from each other anymore. Everyone just asks their agents, and they are fine.
I feel my brain atrophying. I forget how to do things. Developing now feels like being kinda drunk.
Can this be solved? Absolutely: just do it like you used do! Just like quitting to smoke is easy, just don't do it, right? But what if all your colleagues go out to smoke all the time? Do you sit alone? Do you go with them, but just stand next to them in their fume? Or do you need to find new friends? Going back feels like going back to an Abacus after you invented the pocket calculator.
I realised how easy it is for me to build the dash.
But how hard it is to sit down for 1 hour, look at the pages, scroll through them as if I am my client, notice inconsistencies, notice where the numbers don't make sense.
Sitting down, and actually checking and comparing and thinking were already hard before AI, and they became a lot harder.
I use AI to correct AI :D Yea I know, sounds ridiculous, but hear me out.
Claude Web works differently than Claude Code. I use Claude Web/Chat for briefs, general overview of the project outside of code/app, for planning and handing off the work to Code, that includes prompts. Code is tasked to output a detailed view of what it found, run measurements and tests (designed both by me and Chat) and report findings back. That is fed back to Chat and I get a rough summary. Errors are categorized by their blast-radius and so on.
Eventually I do a deep dive of what changed, how well it's handling, how much it's struggling, token usage, time spent per review/test and so on. (btw, Code is tasked to run an independent review via contextless agent on the codebase, that easily costs me another 20-30 mins and ~200K tokens on my current project, each run).
It still makes architectural issues, tries bandaiding and patching instead of properly designing, overvaluing/devaluing certain cases and misallocating where most of the focus should be, but that's relatively easier to spot and propose a fix for than doing a line by line code review.
Codebase quality is ensured through mapping the flow and the output space and having a hard-pinned tests Code can't modify to green its answers, + the independent reviewer I mentioned above.
It's not as fun as going in by hand on deep technical problems, sure. But AI usage is less about fun and more about output speed, so use it for what it is for ig? :D
This is definitely a real thing. I think part of it is inherent to the shift, we’re now managing multiple agents which means more context switching than before.
I think part of it is just a point in time thing though (hopefully).
We can’t trust the agent output so need to check it. We can’t trust the agent to use common sense so have to think through every clarification instead of assuming a competent peer will come back with any necessary questions instead of making bad assumptions.
I think all of these things will continue to improve over time.
For myself AI quickly went from so painful to being avoided to something I can’t work without.
When claude code became quite good, I became quite excited. I wanted to make sure that I consumed my full quota ( 5-hourly and weekly ). I was working on four to five different project at the same time. And it was excruciatingly painful after the initial rush wore off.
I went back to working on one project at a time to regain my sanity.
Before writing about how I feel about AI, some ideas that sometimes help me:
- plan your breaks, e.g. "1h hour of work and then go away from the computer for 5 or 10 minutes"
* try to break the "just plan a little further" loop
- accept that you cannot be concentrated for hours and that reading an AI chat is mentally challenging (see first point about breaks)
- Talk with your coworkers about it. You are not alone, it is important to talk about how you feel
- set some boundarys, e.g. I don't work in parallel on different stuff
- do NOT doom scroll while the AI is "thinking". Try some meditation or mindfullnes exercises. Doom scrolling on reddit, HN or youtube will mess up your brain even more.
- from every task, try to do something on your own, and then scale this up by AI. That tip is from a former co-worker. Their idea was that you need to figure out things first and then let AI do the boring task to scale it up. Depends on the topic sadly.
- do some things by hand, especially if they are fun for you. E.g. I really like UI design, somethign that basically is gone now for me.
It feels very strange on multiple levels.
There is the tiredness of reading text all day long. The fear of loosing my coding abilities because Claude does is. I am totally loosing track of what I did when. I can tell you about things I coded 5 years ago, I cannot tell you what I did with Claude last week.
And don't get me wrong, I LOVE planning stuff out before doing that. If there is anything positive about AI, then it is people actually PLANNING before doing.
On the other hand, I can now do/try out things I did not do because I did not have time. But at the same time, it feels like I am working on making myself not needed anymore in the future.
Worst thing, I feel like I am getting dumber. My attention spans or the "I need to know why this happens" span gets shorter, because with AI everything has to be faster?! Riiight?
I don't know how this will turn out in the future.
I see people underselling themselves becoming anxious about working without AI (either because of how they think about their abilities or management pressure).
I am getting chat snippits from AI conversations via Teams, PR checks are skills now and we need 3 rounds of discussing findings with AI ...
We live in interesting times. But yeah, I am feeling with miserable about it.
Sometimes, I skim the generated text. I mean, most of it is supposition and filler, right? The rest of the time, I cut to the chase: does the code work? If not, I ignore all the generated text, pass along the errors/warnings, and go from there.
What I like best about working with AI is that I feel like a leader developer again (I've been retired from programming for almost 30 years.) It's pleasant and I don't need to worry about how snarky I get when going over bad code.
> It's pleasant and I don't need to worry about how snarky I get when going over bad code.
Yes, reviewing an LLM code is at times infuriating, but at least I can be brief and direct, rather than spend 2x the effort trying to make sure it won't be interpreted as harsh.
I finally understand how tiring and how much work it is to manage tasks and make decisions all day.
I used to think that only the workers (the coders, burger makers) did all the hard work, while the managers and up basically sat on their butts and relaxed. But decisions and managing even without coding is just as exhausting.
My biggest problem is remembering what I did yesterday. It's starting to become hard to remember what I have going on right now. Multitasking is a killer.
I think it's a very exciting time and I am enthusiastic about it. What I tried to do is automate as much as possible of that decision-making, guidance and taste. Having said that, it is significantly more context switching, my solution so far is to have agents run longer autonomously, less interruptions is less switching. Prerequisite is that you must build a system first that lets you automate that, which is often very personal; most tools don't particularly apply.
I use a sort of kanban board so I have a column of the backlog of things to do, a column of tasks agents are actively working on and a column of things that need review. The agents put summaries of what they did in each task and I can write my own comments there too. It’s not perfect, but it definitely helps me with context switching because I can open a task, quickly scan it to see what is going on and then open an agent with the task as its context to continue working on it.
im more wired than tired and i think a good chunk of my excitment comes from agency. ive quit my job one year ago and after a bit of wandering around discovered opus 4.5. since than i’ve been able to launch somewhat succesfull projects, switch to linux, and generally enjoy the fruits of being able to think of something and bring it to the world in a fee minutes. when i was working and “made to use ai”, i just hated it. i still remember one time the founder from previous job said “we’re going to go with what claude said”
If you have the ability, leave some parts of the codebase completely in your control. It's impossible to think and work deeply when using AI. So leave the most critical component to yourself and let AI handle the rest
Its crazy to see how we can now do things which were not thinkable a few years back.
Finally i read real progress i can see and use by myself and not constantly some crypto and blockchain stuff.
While I would like to have a stable world/live and for sure AI is disruptive as hell to a lot of people and potentially to me too, at least progress of technology i can't stop.
And i thought about automatistaion for decades for sure, I don't play devils advocate and thinking "yeah its great that we invented the loom" while hating AI for what it is: tech.
In worst case I only watch one 45 minute ai summary video from my YT channels, but I do have a lot of random small experiments i'm playing around with anyway.
What i discoved though: if you never go above 20$ subscriptions, you hold yourself back because you don't think about approaching bigger experiements.
I find it more difficult to get into "flow state" as the AI agents are continuously "distracting" me. Similarly to managing a team of 5 excellent engineers with poor communication boundaries.
Have you asked your system? Like, literally, "this new way of working is mentally overstraining me. What can we do at high level, that still is compatible with me in a competitive workspace?"
Yes, the worst (or just longest) pieces of slop tire me out. When I leave work I usually cannot read or spell properly. The texts I read in the afternoon make much more sense in the next day. I'm making typos I could never ever imagine making. There's just too much to review and ignore.
Not personally. What I am tired of is the internet's current approach of treating every discussion (of anything) with pure outrage without considering any nuance.
It's completely destroying genuine conversations about the pros and cons of AI when people will just forever parrot that everything is slop
In true drinking the kool-aid style, I've attempted to solve this problem with an LLM!
I have a skill which aggregates what I've been working on over the last day (from slack, calendar, mail etc. MCP) and writes a notion journal entry for me. It runs in the evening when I've finished and is ready the next morning when I start. It helps with the context switching - reminding me of deadlines or what I was in the middle of before I left.
It didn't really bother me during the altcoin/nft scam era, other than from time to time trying to explain at a normie that they were mostly scams, you know the concept that if you want to sell an asset for X you have to find somebody willing to buy.
But at least you could simply ignore all the mentally ill megalomaniacs that were like duude this is the future
This time instead it's so pervasive that you can simply not excape the narrative and simply concentrate on the good stuff about the technology. It's the narrative, the pressure, the whole global situation, not AI in general
This is something I avoid at all costs. If it's someone else's slop I just won't read it, and if it's "my" slop I prefer to interactively ask questions about it rather than reading a wall of text.
I am old enough to be retired -- career spent as a research geophysicist. I have about 2-3 scientific projects/papers/codebases left in me before I go be a hermit in a cave somewhere.
LLMs appear to be able help me get through that. I'll take the help.
BUT JEEZ! Dealing with "Rain Man"[1] LLMs week-in and week-out is wildly annoying, frustrating, and anger inducing.
If they all would just STOP sounding so authoritative when spewing nonsense!
[1] After the Dustin Hoffman character in the movie of the same name. "Ah but you know I'm an excellent d̴r̴i̴v̴e̴r̴ programmer."
I'm just extremely tired of non-technical people trying to tell me how to do my job, what the state-of-the-art is, that I can implement their non-existent specs faster, or that software development is just about the ideas not implementation because we have swarms of clankers available.
I’ve had some luck in telling people I don’t need them sending me a 1000 word claudeslop technical change, I have the same model they do and can generate the same thing if needed.
But then I have to repeat this lecture to so many people it’s wearing me down. I’ve mostly resorted to just not reading it and simply ignoring any AI text sent to me.
More of what? I see many here using AI to build more of the same things in another language such as rewrites and then claiming that they are "productive", which is the problem of many engineers here.
Not that much risk taking if all what everyone is doing is just full blown rewrites and then abandoning it in a couple of months later and just wasting tokens for free.
If the result is to vibe code something for free and it makes no money and has no users then it is a waste of time.
Clearly there are few limits to what you can implement with AI agents today.
Depending on the complexity, you will spend a lot of time QA testing, giving feedback, and iterating.
One can take shortcuts such as porting existing software, as you mentioned. Many are just content publishing crappy novel software that they barely tested.
You don't need to do that. No one is forcing you not to QA test and iterate until you have a good product.
My boss is demanding me to use AI but hasn’t started demanding me to run parallel agents or anything like that, so I’m managing to keep things under control. Who knows how long it’ll take before they start doing that or just fire me outright. I feel pretty checked out anyway. I do remind myself every day that “it’s just a job” and I shouldn’t care about it. I think I’m more worried about AI ruining my leisure time too and has me check out of life entirely.
> I am pretty sure most of you are experiencing the same as me, but: Have you found ways of using AI without increasing mental overload?
I would recommend you to try using FIM/line completion rather than the agent approach. Using FIM it makes me (feel) productive while still being in control. Oftentimes when writing code for production, documentation etc. the agent approach feels like a wash to me - sometimes it saves time, sometimes it wastes time. With FIM the gain/quality is more consistent.
I've been enjoying it, forgive me for torturing an economics metaphor but most of the AI hype has been on the "sell" side, people can create lots of MRs and noise and potential outages. I've been working on the "buy" side building eval frameworks for all steps in our workflow so we can actually measure agent output instead of just saying "look cycle time was cut in half!" while churning out slop.
I am tired of the fact that even my hobbies have now been taken over by LLM-wielding imbeciles. Nothing better than going through LLM output your whole work day only to tune in to your favourite community after work to see an absolute idiot throw a slop grenade and refuse to accept that the LLM served him bullshit...
It feels a lot of reddit comments (but also here on HN) are AI generated. It would be helpful to see a kind of marking of probability a comment is generated.
> I am pretty sure most of you are experiencing the same as me, but: Have you found ways of using AI without increasing mental overload?
Yeah. Quitting before this shit eats me alive. I'm in an EE degree program now. Better three years of study while everyone else gets to deal with the bananaware and the bullshit, and let's see then once the seas have calmed.
Until then, I actively try to avoid engaging with Slop Generator regurgitations and call it out whenever I see someone not disclosing they used a Slop Generator.
The AI era just started. So no, but I would like if we weren't in such a capitalist hellscape where you practically have to eat other people to survive. The world now is grim because of who is leading. Stupid, rich sociopaths have worked really hard to make sure democracy doesn't work properly, crying about "fake news" and lying until the fourth estate is dead. We are in an era of criminal leadership more than ever. I am worried that the potential for massive species-level tragedy is building up, and we're not addressing real problems like resource scarcity and human caused mass extinctions and so on. There is a really bad future ahead when our supposed leaders say "drill baby drill", gut institutions doing positive work, go to war, and support genocide.
I am tired, even if I don't use AI too much for my day job designing HW, mostly for disposable scripts if at all. The utter lack of stability in the market, not even 5 years out, is sad. That is even though I have savings to weather the storm and no major liabilities.
AI is a boon for learning, but the result will heavily depend on mental capability of the user; having a depression-induced brainrot doesn't help though.
And, in the last year clankers have started coming for us EEs.
The reality is that many people are more fucked than I am, but I can't stop the bad thoughts.
> And, in the last year clankers have started coming for us EEs.
Get your practical skills in residential and commercial electricity up to speed and join the trades. The world is going for solar, heat pumps and electric vehicles no matter what corrupt politicians want (yay free market for once, lol), and that means there will be demand for people actually pulling wires and installing cabinets for decades to come. Start out as a side gig and when you find the clankers get too close to home turf, expand.
Over 40 here, and I’m having the opposite experience. Honestly, I think experience is part of why. Years of projects teach you what to ignore: which generated code actually needs a careful review, which decisions matter, and when to stop. I don’t run many things in parallel. I’d rather do one thing well than babysit five agents.
It also helps that a lot of my AI use is on my own side projects, where I set the pace. That makes it fun instead of draining. Maybe the tiredness has less to do with AI itself and more to do with being pushed to maximize throughput?
I agree with your observation. If I have kept the same targets as before, of course I would be working less. But being able to do more means being more ambitious. But the competition is also growing so in general the pattern is everybody works more
It's weird times.
I feel incredibly productive. I'm building in an afternoon what would've taken weeks. I spend all my time in either MR's reviewing code, or a terminal prompting.
I've moved from being a coder, to being a product-engineer-architect. I love coding -- LOVE it. But the role has morphed. And, I actually really like the new role. I love being product centric, and caring about architecture -- it suits me wel..
The code Claude produces is often clean, but terribly archictected. So I'm spending a lot of time reviewing in detail.
But the anxienty - OMG the anxiety.
I work on multple features (generally 4-5 work streams) concurrently, so am constantly context switching. I worry about how much time I'm spending on each task. Am I doing enough code review? Too much? Too little?
What about click-through testing? Our test coverage has never been higher - should I be able to just merge these features? Wasn't that always the promise of TDD - merging with confidence? But, it feels like a risk.
And, I'm moving really really fast - but I assume my competitors are too. So that drives me to move faster. Automate more. Use claude in more places. Which brings more anxiety - am I cutting too many corners? Is this all gonna crumble on me?
Also, is everything I'm working on going to become irrelevant? Will customers buy this product, or vibe code it? Do we even have a moat? Anxiety. More anxiety.
My investors are reading stuff constantly too. They're pinging me with market updates, emerging players, shifting landscapes. More anxiety. Also - productivity tools - look - internet influencer X is now producing a gajillion lines of code a second -- are we doing that? Are we token maxing? Are we feature maxing?
Are we building the right number of internal tools? Are we automating enough? Should I evaluate the market for this new tool, or just smash something out with claude? More features. Burn more tokens. Ship ship ship.
Having to explain to investors why we're not going as fast as those guys, and building enterprise products requires care and dedication -- that takes time. Time I should be shipping, coding, featuring, tokenizing. More anxiety.
I'm exhausted.
Anyway, gotta go - herdr has pinged me four times during writing this reply. Gotta ship.
Some questions that bother me:
Are people reviewing all the tests that have been created automatically?
What about existing tests? How do we make sure that AI does not fake them by silently (by silent changes or by faking the test output)?
>Are people reviewing all the tests that have been created automatically?
No.
> How do we make sure that AI does not fake them by silently (by silent changes or by faking the test output)?
I have never seen this happen for a couple of months at least.
Well yeah you’re not reviewing the tests so you wouldn’t catch them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o7qjN3KF8U
I feel so sorry for you and the kind of life you're building for yourself... I really hope this is a joke
I believe it.
I spend about 90% of at-computer time in a herdr-like tool.
It feels like playing factorio: whatever is manual needs to be automated away.
LLM writes the test. The test is crap. Update the skill. Ask an LLM to review your feedback on the last 5 PRs and write a skill for a review bot to look for similar problems and post. Now you only see PRs after they've gone through a few rounds of review.
The LLM has stopped picking up new issues. Ask an LLM to diagnose why. Ask an LLM to write a cron to regularly check if the LLM PR pipeline has halted and ping you. Get an LLM to try to diagnose it first.
I'm using a lot of LLMs! Ask an LLM to diagnose why. Write a tool to audit your usage, and produce a weekly report. Have it raise issue to reduce spending.
And like a base building game there are many competing facets, coming all at once.
I am fighting context switching by
- spending more time upfront working with agent on intent of the change, then design, so agent does not try to work around issues in a way that I don't intend to
- investing in ways in which agent can verify it's own change
- giving access to as much prod telemetry, etc so it can also verify the change post-merge
- obvious stuff, like automated review loops etc
But in the end I still read the "load bearing" parts of the code. Less closely, and I've long ago stopped looking at the tests. It's better for me than couple of months ago.
I just had an interview and they asked me prepare for coding live. I had to manually code bubble sort before the interview. It felt really nice, but it ended up them showing me some code and review it instead :facepalm:
I'm actually unsure whether this is satire or not, which says volumes about the current moment
It’s the exact opposite for me. I don’t get tired at all from using AI. I am one of the people who enjoy building and not necessarily coding. A part of me is sad that I don’t write code anymore, I did have a thought yesterday when reviewing a PR, but working is fun for me again.
What was making me tired was all the doom and gloom online. I stopped consuming certain news and stopped going on Reddit entirely and my outlook is noticeably better.
I haven’t cut out sad news entirely but I don’t read speculative opinions about things that don’t actually affect me.
In terms of the overload I find that the clearly defined problems have much more obvious solutions. Identify your pain points and use AI to build you a tool or reusable prompt to make your life easier. It’s a constant refinement process to figure out what helps you.
For example, I was having a hard time managing multiple sessions so I had it build a window manager with notifications and color coding based on session hooks and git issue/PR status. I’m comfortably up to 8-12 sessions working in different worktrees.
Refreshing take, what's bad of this AI period is all the anti-AI stuff around it.
Otherwise I've never been less stressed and chill in my working life.
I'm not sure if you could share the window manager but I'd love to get a glimpse of it, as it sounds interesting!
I am surprised of how many people here are claiming they review the results of multiple agents working on different prs at the same time constantly context switching between them.
I just focus on one, I use on purpose very short interactions because I want to check every single function directly and not a whole 300lines file or 2000lines pr just at the end. Probably I am going slower than most of you but I feel I retain the knowledge of my codebase almost as good as when I was the one writing the code directly, and my PRs get very few review comments
What get me tired the most is when people submit to me a pr to review and I see immediately they full vibe coded it and just delegate to me the actual hard work of correcting the nonsense written in it with a single prompt without interactions. The worst is when you ask someone why they implemented something that way and they answer with "well calude made it, I really didn't think about it, now that I read it it makes no sense indeed"
I'm similar. I work in a context where I am responsible for the code that is in production and need to know how it works and vouch for its correctness.
Even with short interactions though, the effort in reviewing adds up and I ended up building a tool to help with it: https://github.com/imron/crt
I can review in the tool, and it remembers which files I have seen/approved since a given commit, then I can leave comments against source code and have an agent pick up those comments over mcp so it has context when making corrections.
I’ve been assigning the copilot review thing on all of these PRs, but I’ve noticed lately it’s started writing really difficult to verify review comments. It would take you literally all day to understand and test the things it’s commenting to check if they actually are issues, so as a result we all just ignore whatever the copilot review says and no one does any review.
We have removed it now, but when we used it we tweaked it to tell us only what it thoughts were major issues and ignore the rest because we had the same exact problem. Most comments were garbage
The whole situation is suboptimal because the manager uses Claude to generate tickets, the developers copy and paste the whole thing in to Claude and then post a PR they didn’t understand a thing about, and then it gets to me and I just don’t have time to review 4000 lines of code. So it ships having not had a single person understand what it does or was even for.
The entire point of 3000 line PRs is so that you can LGTM and not feel too bad about it
Enforcing boundaries and saying no have gotten more important than ever, now that violation of either is automated at superhuman speeds.
FWIW, there might be a silver lining in this. A lot of dysfunction in the current state of tech can (IMO) be traced back to violation of boundaries. This might lead to a cultural shift. Though, that might also just be wishful thinking on my part.
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> I would love to hear your tips, but still be relevant in this AI era, so my boss does not fire me.
If your boss fires you because you didn't multiply your performance by doing more work in the same time (without your compensation changing), that's not your fault but simply your employer trying to squeeze you harder and that not working out.
Always keep that in mind in these discussions.
Which isn't to say that you should not improve efficiency and all, but it needs to be organic. If something inorganic is asked, then the (moral) failure is on the asker and not the askee.
I am vey tired. I maintain Pinggy - my first bootstrapped startup and building Lumirank , my next one. But every day is a struggle of coping up with what is new and what 20 more competitors that corpped up yesterday are up to. Millions of lines of codes being written every day, I can not merge without knowing the overall architecture and flow. But I can't rest. Everyone is running.
Sometimes I feel please someone give me a job where I can work 12 hours a day - but the rest of the 12 hours I don't need to think about what will happen tomorrow.. It will still be less stressful.
> please someone give me a job where I can work 12 hours a day - but the rest of the 12 hours I don't need to think about what will happen tomorrow
Why do you dream about working 12h a day when 8h is pretty standard.
Just to emphasize the "but the rest of the 12 hours I don't need to think about what will happen tomorrow" part.
When we get good at something, it results in flow state, but it also means that was mechanizable in a way and now AI is taking that away. So we are always grappling with the new and effortful. And the context switching, jeez. We need entirely new visualizations of work flow that recognizes we are now doing more, and in parallel. Wonder if this is how air traffic control people feel.
My entire life, I have found meaning in solving problems with code. With AI, this is no longer competitive. Now I develop more than ever and am more productive than ever, but it still doesn't feel as rewarding. I would like to go back.
You and me both, man :)
I tell it I am a chimp with a 3 inch brain so complexity beyond chimp scale is forbidden unless requested. And to apply theory of bounded rationality during all chimp interactions. Takes care of me like a spl circus animal.
I ask it for a quick complexity thermometer reading when ever the rabbit hole is looking like it might explode.
Also walking away from it every few hours and doing random simple mindless stuff has helped. Like I will go inspect my fish and plants. Try to have a chat with the cat, get others around to do a little dance etc etc.
I have a priest in the family who has to deal with lot of heavy duty stuff/people's problems. They train them not to get totally sucked in and loose themselves. He calls it grounding. Just simple mundane things to focus shift out of anything heavy.
I feel tired watching AI generate my code and doom scrolling on instagram like they should make the code generated within minutes
I went through a period of feeling very tired. For me two things helped:
1. Being okay with being "less" productive. I'm probably still 10x more productive than I was in the pre-AI era, but in the early days of AI I would have eight Claude sessions running. Now it's two or three and I take more advantage of the free time I have between Claude assignments. My bosses are still happy with my output and I'm not being burnt out.
2. Very personal, but building my own tooling really helped. I built https://smalldocs.org / https://github.com/espressoplease/smalldocs (a document creator for AI agents) which allows me to take a lot of work outside of a chat history. E.g. I might make 10 MRs and then say "smalldoc me a list of the MRs" and I have that in my library, or if I'm considering various architectures I'll ask "smalldoc me a simple overview of the three architectures with mermaid diagrams" and then I can review the agent's thinking in a cleaner way.
There are multiple strings coming together here.
AI-generated code works great for me, most of the time. I'm productive, I ship, I can show stakeholders stuff in no time and and they are mostly happy.
But the development sucks. I don't even really look at the code anymore, because reading generated code is a drag. And there is no reason really to do it. There is no fulfillment of "I solved this real problem using some intricate logic that came out of my mind". I just throw tokens at it, and it works, great.
I don't really talk to coworkers anymore about the code. We don't do coding sessions together, or bang our heads together over some hard problem, because there are no hard problems. We don't learn from each other anymore. Everyone just asks their agents, and they are fine.
I feel my brain atrophying. I forget how to do things. Developing now feels like being kinda drunk.
Can this be solved? Absolutely: just do it like you used do! Just like quitting to smoke is easy, just don't do it, right? But what if all your colleagues go out to smoke all the time? Do you sit alone? Do you go with them, but just stand next to them in their fume? Or do you need to find new friends? Going back feels like going back to an Abacus after you invented the pocket calculator.
I’m tired of exuberant hardware prices so that companies can shove AI down our throats on subpar products that work way worse than they did before.
This!
I'm building a dashboard for a client.
I realised how easy it is for me to build the dash.
But how hard it is to sit down for 1 hour, look at the pages, scroll through them as if I am my client, notice inconsistencies, notice where the numbers don't make sense.
Sitting down, and actually checking and comparing and thinking were already hard before AI, and they became a lot harder.
I use AI to correct AI :D Yea I know, sounds ridiculous, but hear me out.
Claude Web works differently than Claude Code. I use Claude Web/Chat for briefs, general overview of the project outside of code/app, for planning and handing off the work to Code, that includes prompts. Code is tasked to output a detailed view of what it found, run measurements and tests (designed both by me and Chat) and report findings back. That is fed back to Chat and I get a rough summary. Errors are categorized by their blast-radius and so on.
Eventually I do a deep dive of what changed, how well it's handling, how much it's struggling, token usage, time spent per review/test and so on. (btw, Code is tasked to run an independent review via contextless agent on the codebase, that easily costs me another 20-30 mins and ~200K tokens on my current project, each run).
It still makes architectural issues, tries bandaiding and patching instead of properly designing, overvaluing/devaluing certain cases and misallocating where most of the focus should be, but that's relatively easier to spot and propose a fix for than doing a line by line code review.
Codebase quality is ensured through mapping the flow and the output space and having a hard-pinned tests Code can't modify to green its answers, + the independent reviewer I mentioned above.
It's not as fun as going in by hand on deep technical problems, sure. But AI usage is less about fun and more about output speed, so use it for what it is for ig? :D
This is definitely a real thing. I think part of it is inherent to the shift, we’re now managing multiple agents which means more context switching than before.
I think part of it is just a point in time thing though (hopefully). We can’t trust the agent output so need to check it. We can’t trust the agent to use common sense so have to think through every clarification instead of assuming a competent peer will come back with any necessary questions instead of making bad assumptions. I think all of these things will continue to improve over time. For myself AI quickly went from so painful to being avoided to something I can’t work without.
When claude code became quite good, I became quite excited. I wanted to make sure that I consumed my full quota ( 5-hourly and weekly ). I was working on four to five different project at the same time. And it was excruciatingly painful after the initial rush wore off.
I went back to working on one project at a time to regain my sanity.
Before writing about how I feel about AI, some ideas that sometimes help me: - plan your breaks, e.g. "1h hour of work and then go away from the computer for 5 or 10 minutes" * try to break the "just plan a little further" loop
- accept that you cannot be concentrated for hours and that reading an AI chat is mentally challenging (see first point about breaks)
- Talk with your coworkers about it. You are not alone, it is important to talk about how you feel
- set some boundarys, e.g. I don't work in parallel on different stuff
- do NOT doom scroll while the AI is "thinking". Try some meditation or mindfullnes exercises. Doom scrolling on reddit, HN or youtube will mess up your brain even more.
- from every task, try to do something on your own, and then scale this up by AI. That tip is from a former co-worker. Their idea was that you need to figure out things first and then let AI do the boring task to scale it up. Depends on the topic sadly.
- do some things by hand, especially if they are fun for you. E.g. I really like UI design, somethign that basically is gone now for me.
It feels very strange on multiple levels.
There is the tiredness of reading text all day long. The fear of loosing my coding abilities because Claude does is. I am totally loosing track of what I did when. I can tell you about things I coded 5 years ago, I cannot tell you what I did with Claude last week.
And don't get me wrong, I LOVE planning stuff out before doing that. If there is anything positive about AI, then it is people actually PLANNING before doing.
On the other hand, I can now do/try out things I did not do because I did not have time. But at the same time, it feels like I am working on making myself not needed anymore in the future.
Worst thing, I feel like I am getting dumber. My attention spans or the "I need to know why this happens" span gets shorter, because with AI everything has to be faster?! Riiight?
I don't know how this will turn out in the future.
I see people underselling themselves becoming anxious about working without AI (either because of how they think about their abilities or management pressure).
I am getting chat snippits from AI conversations via Teams, PR checks are skills now and we need 3 rounds of discussing findings with AI ...
We live in interesting times. But yeah, I am feeling with miserable about it.
Sometimes, I skim the generated text. I mean, most of it is supposition and filler, right? The rest of the time, I cut to the chase: does the code work? If not, I ignore all the generated text, pass along the errors/warnings, and go from there. What I like best about working with AI is that I feel like a leader developer again (I've been retired from programming for almost 30 years.) It's pleasant and I don't need to worry about how snarky I get when going over bad code.
> It's pleasant and I don't need to worry about how snarky I get when going over bad code.
Yes, reviewing an LLM code is at times infuriating, but at least I can be brief and direct, rather than spend 2x the effort trying to make sure it won't be interpreted as harsh.
I finally understand how tiring and how much work it is to manage tasks and make decisions all day.
I used to think that only the workers (the coders, burger makers) did all the hard work, while the managers and up basically sat on their butts and relaxed. But decisions and managing even without coding is just as exhausting.
My biggest problem is remembering what I did yesterday. It's starting to become hard to remember what I have going on right now. Multitasking is a killer.
I think it's a very exciting time and I am enthusiastic about it. What I tried to do is automate as much as possible of that decision-making, guidance and taste. Having said that, it is significantly more context switching, my solution so far is to have agents run longer autonomously, less interruptions is less switching. Prerequisite is that you must build a system first that lets you automate that, which is often very personal; most tools don't particularly apply.
I use a sort of kanban board so I have a column of the backlog of things to do, a column of tasks agents are actively working on and a column of things that need review. The agents put summaries of what they did in each task and I can write my own comments there too. It’s not perfect, but it definitely helps me with context switching because I can open a task, quickly scan it to see what is going on and then open an agent with the task as its context to continue working on it.
im more wired than tired and i think a good chunk of my excitment comes from agency. ive quit my job one year ago and after a bit of wandering around discovered opus 4.5. since than i’ve been able to launch somewhat succesfull projects, switch to linux, and generally enjoy the fruits of being able to think of something and bring it to the world in a fee minutes. when i was working and “made to use ai”, i just hated it. i still remember one time the founder from previous job said “we’re going to go with what claude said”
My job is easier than ever. Im never tired or completely drained when i get off work.
I used to grind so hard, but now it's so chill. I don't mind this change.
The main thing i dislike is how much my profession has been devalued. Code is worth so little now. It's sad.
If you have the ability, leave some parts of the codebase completely in your control. It's impossible to think and work deeply when using AI. So leave the most critical component to yourself and let AI handle the rest
I'm quite energized by this.
Its crazy to see how we can now do things which were not thinkable a few years back.
Finally i read real progress i can see and use by myself and not constantly some crypto and blockchain stuff.
While I would like to have a stable world/live and for sure AI is disruptive as hell to a lot of people and potentially to me too, at least progress of technology i can't stop.
And i thought about automatistaion for decades for sure, I don't play devils advocate and thinking "yeah its great that we invented the loom" while hating AI for what it is: tech.
In worst case I only watch one 45 minute ai summary video from my YT channels, but I do have a lot of random small experiments i'm playing around with anyway.
What i discoved though: if you never go above 20$ subscriptions, you hold yourself back because you don't think about approaching bigger experiements.
I find it more difficult to get into "flow state" as the AI agents are continuously "distracting" me. Similarly to managing a team of 5 excellent engineers with poor communication boundaries.
Have you asked your system? Like, literally, "this new way of working is mentally overstraining me. What can we do at high level, that still is compatible with me in a competitive workspace?"
I don't no, but I can understand why others might.
For me it's very exciting and AI has been so far a crazy enabler for me. Both in my work and my personal life.
But I also enjoy keeping up with it and reading about it etc.
Remember to take breaks, this is applicable before and after AI.
Yes, the worst (or just longest) pieces of slop tire me out. When I leave work I usually cannot read or spell properly. The texts I read in the afternoon make much more sense in the next day. I'm making typos I could never ever imagine making. There's just too much to review and ignore.
No, infact i'm more empowered than ever.. might burn out tho.. we'll see
Not personally. What I am tired of is the internet's current approach of treating every discussion (of anything) with pure outrage without considering any nuance.
It's completely destroying genuine conversations about the pros and cons of AI when people will just forever parrot that everything is slop
> so my boss does not fire me
That't the key. Not AI.
Yes, feeling this 100%
In true drinking the kool-aid style, I've attempted to solve this problem with an LLM!
I have a skill which aggregates what I've been working on over the last day (from slack, calendar, mail etc. MCP) and writes a notion journal entry for me. It runs in the evening when I've finished and is ready the next morning when I start. It helps with the context switching - reminding me of deadlines or what I was in the middle of before I left.
I'm just so tired of the narrative.
It didn't really bother me during the altcoin/nft scam era, other than from time to time trying to explain at a normie that they were mostly scams, you know the concept that if you want to sell an asset for X you have to find somebody willing to buy.
But at least you could simply ignore all the mentally ill megalomaniacs that were like duude this is the future
This time instead it's so pervasive that you can simply not excape the narrative and simply concentrate on the good stuff about the technology. It's the narrative, the pressure, the whole global situation, not AI in general
> We need to keep track of many things happening in parallel...
That your workplace, not "AI era".
Fair point
> read enormous amounts of generated text
This is something I avoid at all costs. If it's someone else's slop I just won't read it, and if it's "my" slop I prefer to interactively ask questions about it rather than reading a wall of text.
I am old enough to be retired -- career spent as a research geophysicist. I have about 2-3 scientific projects/papers/codebases left in me before I go be a hermit in a cave somewhere.
LLMs appear to be able help me get through that. I'll take the help.
BUT JEEZ! Dealing with "Rain Man"[1] LLMs week-in and week-out is wildly annoying, frustrating, and anger inducing.
If they all would just STOP sounding so authoritative when spewing nonsense!
[1] After the Dustin Hoffman character in the movie of the same name. "Ah but you know I'm an excellent d̴r̴i̴v̴e̴r̴ programmer."
instead of working 4-5 days per week i work 1-2 intense ones.
rest i use to think
I'm just extremely tired of non-technical people trying to tell me how to do my job, what the state-of-the-art is, that I can implement their non-existent specs faster, or that software development is just about the ideas not implementation because we have swarms of clankers available.
I’ve had some luck in telling people I don’t need them sending me a 1000 word claudeslop technical change, I have the same model they do and can generate the same thing if needed.
But then I have to repeat this lecture to so many people it’s wearing me down. I’ve mostly resorted to just not reading it and simply ignoring any AI text sent to me.
> Although AI lets us do much more,
More of what? I see many here using AI to build more of the same things in another language such as rewrites and then claiming that they are "productive", which is the problem of many engineers here.
Not that much risk taking if all what everyone is doing is just full blown rewrites and then abandoning it in a couple of months later and just wasting tokens for free.
If the result is to vibe code something for free and it makes no money and has no users then it is a waste of time.
More of whatever you had in mind.
Clearly there are few limits to what you can implement with AI agents today.
Depending on the complexity, you will spend a lot of time QA testing, giving feedback, and iterating.
One can take shortcuts such as porting existing software, as you mentioned. Many are just content publishing crappy novel software that they barely tested.
You don't need to do that. No one is forcing you not to QA test and iterate until you have a good product.
My boss is demanding me to use AI but hasn’t started demanding me to run parallel agents or anything like that, so I’m managing to keep things under control. Who knows how long it’ll take before they start doing that or just fire me outright. I feel pretty checked out anyway. I do remind myself every day that “it’s just a job” and I shouldn’t care about it. I think I’m more worried about AI ruining my leisure time too and has me check out of life entirely.
> I am pretty sure most of you are experiencing the same as me, but: Have you found ways of using AI without increasing mental overload?
I would recommend you to try using FIM/line completion rather than the agent approach. Using FIM it makes me (feel) productive while still being in control. Oftentimes when writing code for production, documentation etc. the agent approach feels like a wash to me - sometimes it saves time, sometimes it wastes time. With FIM the gain/quality is more consistent.
I hate it and I know it'll get worse
I've been enjoying it, forgive me for torturing an economics metaphor but most of the AI hype has been on the "sell" side, people can create lots of MRs and noise and potential outages. I've been working on the "buy" side building eval frameworks for all steps in our workflow so we can actually measure agent output instead of just saying "look cycle time was cut in half!" while churning out slop.
I am tired of the fact that even my hobbies have now been taken over by LLM-wielding imbeciles. Nothing better than going through LLM output your whole work day only to tune in to your favourite community after work to see an absolute idiot throw a slop grenade and refuse to accept that the LLM served him bullshit...
It feels a lot of reddit comments (but also here on HN) are AI generated. It would be helpful to see a kind of marking of probability a comment is generated.
Reddit as a platform is completely dead at this point. It’s nothing like it once was.
> I am pretty sure most of you are experiencing the same as me, but: Have you found ways of using AI without increasing mental overload?
Yeah. Quitting before this shit eats me alive. I'm in an EE degree program now. Better three years of study while everyone else gets to deal with the bananaware and the bullshit, and let's see then once the seas have calmed.
Until then, I actively try to avoid engaging with Slop Generator regurgitations and call it out whenever I see someone not disclosing they used a Slop Generator.
The AI era just started. So no, but I would like if we weren't in such a capitalist hellscape where you practically have to eat other people to survive. The world now is grim because of who is leading. Stupid, rich sociopaths have worked really hard to make sure democracy doesn't work properly, crying about "fake news" and lying until the fourth estate is dead. We are in an era of criminal leadership more than ever. I am worried that the potential for massive species-level tragedy is building up, and we're not addressing real problems like resource scarcity and human caused mass extinctions and so on. There is a really bad future ahead when our supposed leaders say "drill baby drill", gut institutions doing positive work, go to war, and support genocide.
I am tired, even if I don't use AI too much for my day job designing HW, mostly for disposable scripts if at all. The utter lack of stability in the market, not even 5 years out, is sad. That is even though I have savings to weather the storm and no major liabilities.
AI is a boon for learning, but the result will heavily depend on mental capability of the user; having a depression-induced brainrot doesn't help though.
And, in the last year clankers have started coming for us EEs.
The reality is that many people are more fucked than I am, but I can't stop the bad thoughts.
> And, in the last year clankers have started coming for us EEs.
Get your practical skills in residential and commercial electricity up to speed and join the trades. The world is going for solar, heat pumps and electric vehicles no matter what corrupt politicians want (yay free market for once, lol), and that means there will be demand for people actually pulling wires and installing cabinets for decades to come. Start out as a side gig and when you find the clankers get too close to home turf, expand.
Over 40 here, and I’m having the opposite experience. Honestly, I think experience is part of why. Years of projects teach you what to ignore: which generated code actually needs a careful review, which decisions matter, and when to stop. I don’t run many things in parallel. I’d rather do one thing well than babysit five agents.
It also helps that a lot of my AI use is on my own side projects, where I set the pace. That makes it fun instead of draining. Maybe the tiredness has less to do with AI itself and more to do with being pushed to maximize throughput?
I agree with your observation. If I have kept the same targets as before, of course I would be working less. But being able to do more means being more ambitious. But the competition is also growing so in general the pattern is everybody works more